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Kiss My Fani

February 20, 2024 Pardon The Insurrection Episode 156
Kiss My Fani
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Pardon The Insurrection
Kiss My Fani
Feb 20, 2024 Episode 156
Pardon The Insurrection

Discover the intricate dance of power and politics as we unravel the demise of the Republican crusade to impeach President Joe Biden. Amidst the disarray, we shed light on Hunter Biden's tax evasion charges, which lose their footing after he pays his dues, and the bizarre gun charge from California. But the real twist comes with the indictment that flips the narrative on its head, obliterating the grounds for impeachment. We navigate through the discredited conspiracy theories about the Bidens and Burisma, and the startling role of Special Counsel Robert Weiss in this political chess game. This episode is a masterclass in the complexities of justice and the high voltage drama that ensues within the walls of power.

Step into the legal limelight with us as we dissect the ethical quagmire faced by prosecutor Fani Willis and the sensational accusations of misconduct linked to her personal ties with special prosecutor Nathan Wade. The defense cries foul, alleging bias and a misuse of state funds, but is there substance behind the scandalous claims? We meticulously examine the potential repercussions if Willis were to be disqualified, from the staggering delays to the prospect of a new prosecutor with fresh eyes on the January 6th evidence. This chapter isn't just about legal proceedings; it's about the high-stakes pursuit of accountability and the razor-thin line between law and politics.

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Discover the intricate dance of power and politics as we unravel the demise of the Republican crusade to impeach President Joe Biden. Amidst the disarray, we shed light on Hunter Biden's tax evasion charges, which lose their footing after he pays his dues, and the bizarre gun charge from California. But the real twist comes with the indictment that flips the narrative on its head, obliterating the grounds for impeachment. We navigate through the discredited conspiracy theories about the Bidens and Burisma, and the startling role of Special Counsel Robert Weiss in this political chess game. This episode is a masterclass in the complexities of justice and the high voltage drama that ensues within the walls of power.

Step into the legal limelight with us as we dissect the ethical quagmire faced by prosecutor Fani Willis and the sensational accusations of misconduct linked to her personal ties with special prosecutor Nathan Wade. The defense cries foul, alleging bias and a misuse of state funds, but is there substance behind the scandalous claims? We meticulously examine the potential repercussions if Willis were to be disqualified, from the staggering delays to the prospect of a new prosecutor with fresh eyes on the January 6th evidence. This chapter isn't just about legal proceedings; it's about the high-stakes pursuit of accountability and the razor-thin line between law and politics.

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Follow our show's hosts on
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twitter.com/@Caroldedwine
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twitter.com/blackknight10k
twitter.com/@pardonpod

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Speaker 1:

Yo, what up? This is D-Night and you're listening to the Part of the Interaction podcast, or at least that's what I believe the name of this podcast is. Is that what you're listening to? It's hard to even keep up. It's hard to keep track these days considering the incessant ridiculousness that continues to occur every single day in the United States political landscape Totally off the rails every single day. But we'll get to that in just one second. Before we do that, we'll give a shout out to our sponsor, sheets and Giggles. Of course you know this is Sheets and Giggles podcast. I don't know what else to tell you other than if you haven't gotten your Sheets from Sheets and Giggles, they probably suck. Go ahead and upgrade your sleep lifestyle. I know you're laying there in bed hot every night. Get you some cool, comfortable, soft, luxurious Sheets from SheetsandGigglescom.

Speaker 1:

So in case you missed it, the Republican-led impeachment of Joe Biden in the House of Representatives is dead. It's DOA. It is canceled. Fnito Buried, toast Gone.

Speaker 1:

So the special counsel investigating Hunter Biden, of course the one who indicted him in California for the rather ridiculously absurd gun charge and like I mean, I could kind of understand, like the tax situation, if not for the fact that he paid back his taxes. Probably once you're paying back after the fact, the indictments for that don't come Like again. I don't know if we talked about this before, but one of the arguments Hunter Biden's going to have in that case is selective prosecution. Because, again, there's so few instances of finding prosecutors who indicted someone for not paying their taxes, or rather indicted them for tax evasion for taxes that they paid. It's just rare. But beyond that, that special counsel, robert Weiss he indicted former FBI informant at the end of last week for allegedly lying about President Biden and his son, hunter Biden's involvement with the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

Speaker 1:

And this gentleman, alexander Smirnov, was saying that Hunter Biden was, I guess, supposedly sending kickbacks from the company to his dad to get some kind of. I don't know. The conspiracy theory beyond this surrounding this rather, is kind of insane. Like it's super convoluted, like the energy company was supposedly seeking some kind of IPO in the United States but because it was under investigation by this prosecutor in Ukraine, that would be a bit of a hindrance for the company going public. And supposedly Hunter Biden Went and asked his dad to make sure this prosecutor in Ukraine got fired by pulling some strings with the Ukrainian government To get him out of the way so the company can make money in exchange. You know they're accusing President Biden of getting a kickback. Problem there is Biden wasn't in the White House at the time. So a pretty fucking major hindrance, or at least when it comes to proving this conspiracy theory true, right?

Speaker 1:

So this guy supposedly told prosecutors that executives of Barisma told him in 2015 and 2016 that Hunter Biden brought his dad on board, to quote, protect the company through his dad from all kinds of problems, right. And then they also, according to Smirnov, told him that they paid five million each to Joe and Hunter to take care of all those issues. There was dad's office. The problem with that was Smirnov did not in fact talk to these individuals, these barisma executives, until 2017, and this was after the prosecutor had been fired. And also the reason he was fired wasn't because of pressure by Joe Biden. It's because a number of United States officials, as well as European officials abroad and foreign diplomats, all pushed for the removal of this guy because he was not engaging in pursuing Investigations against other corrupt politicians in Ukraine. So if you spend any time following any of those impeachment hearings where Comer was waving around the the 1023 forms right, those FBI forms where you present evidence is some kind of whistleblower. So all of the information Provided by this guy in those forms Were the basis for this impeachment inquiry in the Joe Biden. Well, this guy just got indicted by the special counsel who was investigating all of this, as well as Hunter Biden, for falsifying all of that information. So the impeachment inquiry is dead. Whatever basis they had to try and suggest that that Biden should be impeached, it's just totally blown out of the water here In.

Speaker 1:

And, of course, look, this gets a lot more complicated than that for a number of reasons. So, on the one hand, it's not as though this guy is one of Biden's handpicked dudes in the at the Department of Justice. This is one of the handful of Trump holdovers from the previous administration who happened to be hanging around basically trying to engage in some shenanigans and and use the prosecutorial powers of the DOJ to hurt President Biden's election chances. And I think we've all seen that with the indictment of Hunter Biden on these no pun intended, trumped up charges. I was so bad, so just just terrible.

Speaker 1:

So you could assume from that that this indictment of Smirnov is legit, or at least in terms of the evidence that he presented is obviously false, otherwise he wouldn't be indicted, wouldn't have been indicted by Weiss in the first place. But, on the other hand, like Weiss was also involved in, like the intake of all this very questionably sourced information about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden at DOJ. He was part of that crew the bill bar set up to take in, like those allegations from Rudy Giuliani, the he got from the Russians right. So I'm not entirely certain that the motivations of this individual are totally on the up and up, because a lot of this information was being requested by Hunter Biden's legal team. And like if that's a real Rupro moment where you're possibly working with people to launder this fake evidence into the Department of Justice and now you've got, like you know, hunter Biden's legal counsel looking into this shit with the opportunity to make it public. Like you got to go Toff your loose ends, right. So inditing this dude might be the way that David Weiss is potentially keeping this guy quiet, because it could potentially implicate him in a scheme to use the DOJ for a political influence operation. That aside, the only other witnesses for James Comer and the Republican House impeachment inquiry have also either been indicted, have been fired from their jobs from lying, or they're like foreign agents or some combination man. It's wild, right Like the.

Speaker 1:

Just the developments in all of this continue coming. I don't understand really what the Republicans were thinking. Like Biden won in 2020, you knew in 2024, trump was going to be back. Like you had to have a plan to run against Joe Biden. You had all this time you basically had unlimited funds and like this is all you could come up with. This is all you had, like getting some dude to lie on the record to FBI agents in order to give him, to give you the documented claims that you knew to be false, so you could try and open up an impeachment of President Biden. As if, like, no one would find out that the ship was lies. It's like they clearly didn't think this through. They got real lazy with the game plan somewhere somehow. Like instead of spending four years doing a good job, they were just trying to. They spent four years trying to find like one weird trick and to get rid of Joe Biden, and it's totally backfiring, totally backfiring. Just at least we're done with that potential headache. I suppose we're not going to be seeing Biden removed from office or even facing an impeachment, unless you know, somehow late.

Speaker 1:

Well, first of all, it's not as though Republicans in the House even have the vote, like it's just a numbers game. At this point. Their majority has shrank, especially since Santos seat has been filled by that special election in New York, which I don't even think we had the opportunity to talk about on this podcast, but that that bodes poorly for Republicans right A seat that a Republican won in 2022 by you know what, was it? 16 points or something like that. And then the swing is massive the other direction and they lose that seat. You think the media might want to spend a little bit more time talking about how Republicans continue to lose every time there's the opportunity to vote. But nope, nope, but yeah, again, it's a numbers game. Their majority has shriveled up to the size of Trump's mushroom dick, so I don't think they're going to likely have enough votes to get this off the ground, especially after you know the information about their star witness being a convicted felon for lying to the FBI, specifically about the allegations that they were relying on. It's just, that's totally over.

Speaker 1:

But you know it's not over the Rico case in Georgia, where Fonnie Willis charged an infinitely high number of Trump's Coke and Spearters for their attempts at their multifaceted attempt to overturn the 2020 election. So I'm absolutely sure you're probably aware of this, but late last week, fonnie Willis took the stand to testify in a hearing in Fulton County, georgia, where the defendants in the case notably one, mike Roman, who was basically in charge of coordinating the fake elector plot filed a motion to have Fonnie Willis and her office disqualified from the case based on a conflict of interest. And this story has been floating around in the news for the last few weeks. We haven't really talked about it much, largely because, a majority of the time, I didn't even think like it would reach this point, like I didn't even think it would. There would be a feasible argument to have finding Willis disqualified from the case, and not only that, I didn't even think we'd reach the point where we'd have a hearing, let alone have Willis herself testify. But here we are.

Speaker 1:

So one of the issues that the defendants raised was the idea in. You know, bear with me because it's not as though Roman's legal team, as well as Trump's legal team, have clearly articulated this in their legal arguments. But the idea here is that because finding Willis appointed a special prosecutor, nathan Wade, who's receiving compensation in the form of state funds because they were also romantically involved during the course of the investigation that finding Willis made decisions about the case that would impact the case in such a way that created more billable hours for Wade and therefore that money being paid to Wade by the state was impermissibly spent on finding Willis. In other words, like they're trying to say she made decisions that were biased against the defendants, in this case for financial gain.

Speaker 1:

Now, part of the reason I didn't even think we'd make it this far is, first of all, when these issues were raised by Roman's attorneys, like they didn't present any evidence right. They didn't submit like a sign to affidavit or anything. They're just like hey man, you know, finding Willis is out here begging one of the special prosecutors and she's like, because they're romantically involved, she's getting these impermissible benefits. Now I am under the assumption here that they got this information from the lawyers in divorce proceedings, right. So they've, they've filed for divorce, they're in divorce proceedings, they're working out those arrangements and I'm assuming that Reed's ex-wife here in vindictive fashion had her attorneys communicate with Mike Roman's attorneys that her ex husband had in fact been dating Fonnie Willis during some period of time over the course of this investigation.

Speaker 1:

Now, one of Mike Roman's specialties is digging up dirt on people. He's like an op-ed research guy. I don't know necessarily how that qualified him to handle the fake like to plot, but it is what it is. So it's entirely possible that Roman, in an attempt to alleviate some of the legal jeopardy he's facing down there in Georgia, put his skills to work in order to try and dig up information to discredit the prosecutor, since there is no evidence whatsoever that could possibly get him off the hook in a criminal trial. So maybe between him and his lawyers, they dug this information up on their own, or they were the ones to initially make contact with the legal team, nathan Wade ex-wife.

Speaker 1:

That aside, fonnie Willis did eventually inform the public that she was indeed involved in a romantic relationship with her special prosecutor, nathan Wade, during some period of time of the investigation. So the judge was like all right, we're going to hold a hearing, sort all of this shit out. And I think one of the noteworthy things to point out is that in this instance, at least in Georgia, it is on the defendant to meet the burden of proof in this regard in order to have the prosecutor disqualify from office. So before this hearing, I myself was particularly worried that a competent legal team could have performed a very thorough investigation and presented some very damning information, and a hearing where the judge is the arbiter of fact and all the shenanigans that Trump usually engages in. That type of behavior won't get you far. So what we got here was, I guess, as Clarence Thomas would like to say, a high-tech lynching.

Speaker 1:

So the defense lawyers in this particular instance spent absolutely no time asking questions that would be particularly disqualifying about the nature of decisions made over the course of the investigation and what kind of financial compensation that Finding Willis was receiving from Wade during the course of their romantic relationship. It was mostly just asking embarrassing questions, or at least questions that might be potentially embarrassing to answer that and focusing on the more salacious details of their romantic endeavors together. Like shit that like yeah, of course it looks bad in public, but that a judge cares nothing about. In regards to what it is the defendants had to prove in order to get Finding Willis off the case, I think at this point the only conclusion the judge can come to is that the defendants didn't meet their burden, so the trial is going forward as scheduled.

Speaker 1:

The only possible hang up could be that if Finding Willis or Nathan Wade, over the course of hours of testifying in the court proceeding, if they happen to at any point not be truthful, that would probably be the only chance that the defense has of disqualifying Finding Willis in her office from the case. Like I want to be really clear with you guys it would be extraordinarily detrimental for holding Trump and his co-conspirators responsible for their crimes on January 6th if somehow Finding Willis does manage to get disqualified, because it would not only remove her from the case but it would remove the entire office from the case, which means the amount of time that it would take to have this case placed in another prosecutor's office could take months, if not up to a year or two. Yeah, it's that fucking serious. So one of the things I was hoping that if it was going to come down to this and Willis knew to some degree that she'd likely be disqualified from the case you know, I'm sure she has enough knowledge of the legal processes down in Georgia, of how these things tend to go about, as well as her own involvement with Wade, and if those details were likely in, with the judge issuing a ruling disqualifying from the, disqualifying her from the case, that her and Wade would just resign before the hearing took place and that would alleviate the conflict. And, you know, her deputy could take over and they could appoint a different special prosecutor to aid them in the investigation. Well, after the testimony, I've come to the conclusion hey, you know we probably don't have to worry about that, but again, the stakes are fucking high, you know, just in case you were wondering what all of the hubbub is about, this could, should it take a turn for the worse, practically eliminate the possibility of Trump being tried in Georgia, because not only could this potentially result in an absurdly long delay, that would put it well past the election. You know, in case somehow Trump does manage to steal the election away, the case could also end over. The prosecutor who doesn't feel as though the evidence warrants the charges quote, unquote or in other words, decides hey, man, this is Trump, we're just going to let do it off the hook and drop all these charges. So, yeah, cross your fingers and hope this doesn't all go bad. Just got a hold for the best. It's just unfortunate. It's out of circumstances here, like you got to realize that if you're a prosecutor and you want to hold Trump accountable.

Speaker 1:

Trump is going to take every avenue possible to try and get out of going to trial. He's going to make every attempt possible to delay things indefinitely. He's going to make every attempt possible to discredit the members of the prosecution. He's going to do everything he possibly can to threaten the witnesses, to intimidate the judges, to take advantage of the political system. Then the political apparatus, in whatever way is possible, is going to do everything he can to skate. And what you can't do, what you can't afford to do, is make a single fucking mistake, and this was a huge mistake.

Speaker 1:

Now, agreed, at this point it appears to be not disqualifying but only embarrassing. But even the fucking embarrassment has a drastic impact on, like the public perception of whether or not all of these criminal prosecutions are Trump or legit. Now maybe you can say public perception doesn't matter and to some degree it doesn't. But we need these verdicts to stick. We need appeals to go our way. We need to make sure that there's no possible loophole that this dude can use to escape being held accountable for his criminal activities or otherwise. He's going to use those loopholes to skate, to declare he was completely and totally exonerated. The media will just run with that fucking narrative and fuel him all the way into the White House in November. And then we're all going to be fucking doomed in January when the fucking orange Gestapo is wandering across the United States, rounding up all of his political enemies and everyone who voted against him.

Speaker 1:

And I keep telling you, guys, I don't want to end up in a fucking internment camp, so I'm going to need you prosecutors to get it the fuck together. Jack Smith, I hope you ain't smashing nobody on the team. Like don't be out here, engaging in none of those activities. Like don't you worry, you put Trump in jail. The girls will be lining up from DC to Baltimore to try and make sure your needs are met once this problem is taken care of. And, alvin Bragg, I hope you ain't messing around out there either, because your trial is set to go next. We're almost a month away. March 25th, mark your calendars. The jury selection begins for the case that we thought would never see the fucking light of day after the Trump administration buried it. But here we are. Stormy Daniels is back, and if you guys make sure Trump goes to prison, I'm sure you'll have an unlimited number of Stormy Daniels, like options at your disposal. And that concludes this episode of Pardon. The Insurrection.

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