Is our political system spiraling out of control? You be the judge, as we dissect the entangled web of legal cases and political bombshells that are shaping the course of American democracy. The episode kicks off with an examination of the Finding Willis Georgia Rico case, a legal labyrinth with twists that could rival any prime-time drama. We delve into the implications of Nathan Wade's abrupt departure and what it means for the future of judicial integrity. Then, we pivot to the shockwaves reverberating through the 2024 presidential campaign landscape – former Vice President Mike Pence's withholding of an endorsement from Donald Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.
You won't want to miss our deep dive into the alarming trend of violent rhetoric creeping into the political arena, where once-unthinkable outbursts are fast becoming the norm. We critique Trump's incendiary comments and how his once-loyal inner circle is now stepping back, unwilling to endorse his bid for a 2024 comeback. It's a sobering look at the potential consequences for our political stability and the integrity of future elections, and we tackle it head-on, parsing fact from frenzied fiction.
The finale of our episode brings into focus the dire predictions of upheaval and the unabashed threats aimed at various groups and the media. We analyze the gravity of these statements, challenging listeners to consider their potential impact with the seriousness they warrant. It's clear that as the political narrative takes on an increasingly ominous tone, our vigilance must rise accordingly. Stay tuned and stay informed – the health of our democracy might just depend on it.
Is our political system spiraling out of control? You be the judge, as we dissect the entangled web of legal cases and political bombshells that are shaping the course of American democracy. The episode kicks off with an examination of the Finding Willis Georgia Rico case, a legal labyrinth with twists that could rival any prime-time drama. We delve into the implications of Nathan Wade's abrupt departure and what it means for the future of judicial integrity. Then, we pivot to the shockwaves reverberating through the 2024 presidential campaign landscape – former Vice President Mike Pence's withholding of an endorsement from Donald Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.
You won't want to miss our deep dive into the alarming trend of violent rhetoric creeping into the political arena, where once-unthinkable outbursts are fast becoming the norm. We critique Trump's incendiary comments and how his once-loyal inner circle is now stepping back, unwilling to endorse his bid for a 2024 comeback. It's a sobering look at the potential consequences for our political stability and the integrity of future elections, and we tackle it head-on, parsing fact from frenzied fiction.
The finale of our episode brings into focus the dire predictions of upheaval and the unabashed threats aimed at various groups and the media. We analyze the gravity of these statements, challenging listeners to consider their potential impact with the seriousness they warrant. It's clear that as the political narrative takes on an increasingly ominous tone, our vigilance must rise accordingly. Stay tuned and stay informed – the health of our democracy might just depend on it.
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Speaker 1:
So on to the news. Of course we had a development in the Finding Willis Georgia Rico case. Well, I guess that's the Trump Rico case headed by Finding Willis's office. Of course, the judge eventually came to the conclusion in his ruling that well, tldr, because the standard in Georgia law for removing an officer of the court is actual conflict. In this instance, finding Willis gets to remain on the case because Trump's attorneys and Mike Roman's attorneys failed to meet their burden in that regard. Side note, however because there was an appearance of conflict of interest either, finding Willis needed to remove herself from the case by, say, recusal, or Nathan Wade had to go. And not long after issuing his ruling name, nathan Wade submitted his resignation, finding Willis's office, which was immediately accepted, and the case can now likely proceed ahead full stop, barring maybe, potentially somehow Trump and his attorneys or Mike Roman's attorneys getting in front of the Georgia bar and having her discipline Finding Willis for what appears to have been, you know, poor judgment on her part by getting romantically involved with someone at work.
Speaker 1:
Look, it's difficult to argue that that's the case. But again, as I've been telling you just listening in on all of the hearings and what the standard of evidence was and the fact that the burden was on the defense council in this case, that Finding Willis wasn't going to get disqualified, and, yeah, it seemed as though the judge was very interested in this idea of a perception of a conflict and I think the way he handled his concern with that matter was to ask Finding Willis to do the obvious and get Nathan Wade about it here, even though they'd already long broken up. But I mean to be fair, like Nathan Wade should have done that the second that this even became an issue and been like, hey, I don't want to be a distraction, I'm gonna get up out of here Finding Willis's office can handle, handle this case. But yeah, so long story short, they spent a few weeks smearing a black woman in Georgia because, you know, when you don't have the law and the facts on your side, all you can do is palette table or, in this case, launch a smear campaign, and I and I don't want to in some ways like the fact that even got to this is insane, because I feel like in under normal circumstances, the judge would have had Willis and Wade back in their office. They could have cleaned this up in 20 minutes, been like yeah, we were in a relationship for a short period of time, we're no longer seeing each other romantically and the judge would have been like are there any actual conflicts in this situation? It'd been like, of course not. And the judge would have been like all right guys, like just to make sure it is done in turn into some you know, poop flinging contest. Wade, I'm gonna ask you to get up out of here and do what would have been like I, cool, and that would have been the end of that.
Speaker 1:
Instead, we had all this nonsense where Wade's attorney didn't have to present any evidence and father, in this motion, like no sign affidavit, no, no underlying evidence, and in the judge would have had an opportunity to review what evidence they even had, you know, would have considered presenting before allowing all these hearings and this televised reality TV show dumpster fire, letting his court get all out of control. I mean, if there's no reason for it to come to this and you know I don't think the judge in this case is put was particularly malicious in any way, just like he's new to the job, guys, soon as the job. It's one of the it's probably the biggest trial in Georgia history and we have a semi-inexperienced judge who knew before this, even like all of this played out, had said that he wasn't going to let this get out of control and turn his courtroom and do a dumpster fire. But that's what happens, like once you open the door it's like the floodgates, like it just it's a deluge of shit and he probably should have nipped this in the bud before he even got started. But I mean lessons learned, nothing you can do now.
Speaker 1:
Wade's off the case, fannie Willis's office still in control, here right in the show and eventually we're going to get. I imagine next steps would be to set a trial date or at least a day for jury selection, and then start moving along with some of these pre-trial proceedings, motion practice and such so. Also, heading into the weekend, we had a breaking development as it pertains to Trump's 2024 presidential campaign and that his former vice president, who we've all come to lovingly agree, probably should have been sacrificed on January 6th in order to preserve our democracy, so that people might take the coup a little bit more seriously instead of gas sliding us constantly. Mike Pence declared in an interview that he would not be endorsing his former boss and president, donald J Trump. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 3:
We have not heard from you. Will you be endorsing your former president? You were on the ticket with him last time around.
Speaker 2:
Well, martha, I appreciate the question, and it should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year.
Speaker 1:
My guy, he tried to have you murdered. The crowd was out there chanting hang Mike Pence. And Trump was like I'm not going to do anything about that. In fact, it might be actually quite delightful if they hang Mike Pence. It would be a fantastic development over the course of a coup.
Speaker 1:
My God man, could you imagine if we lived in a world where Joe Biden was running for a reelection this year and Kamala Harris not only was no longer his running mate, but came out in front of the public and was, like hell nine, endorsing Joe Biden? Y'all crazy, right. It would be a media firestorm. It'd be endless headlines about how President Biden isn't fit to serve and can't even, you know, gather the support of those closest around him, and on and on and just endless insanity. Mike Pence out here. Like I ain't endorsing this dude. No one cares. It's insane. I don't understand what the media is doing. Like I don't. I don't know how it works. You know who decides what doesn't. Doesn't become a major story. And like in what context? This isn't national headlines. I don't understand, but I mean that's what it is. And then like also it's what's really funny there.
Speaker 1:
Listen to the clip a little bit more closely at the end of it. He says this year is if, like, somehow Trump loses in 2024, but runs again in 2028, he might have the opportunity over four years to win me over, even though he tried to have me murdered. Like this is fucking bonkers. That we're all pretending and by we I mean like the royal, we like the media, republicans, like the average person, not like you and me specifically but like that we, including Mike Pence, are out here pretending like Trump didn't try to have Mike Pence killed, is fucking insane. It's insane. I get is like it's it's pull your hair out. Levels of bad shit, crazy, and it's just being totally normalized. I don't understand and for anyone who thinks that I'm like hitting you know being jocular about the idea that that Trump somehow wanted Mike Pence killed like no, trump will tell you himself, like there's video of Trump telling you that it was a totally reasonable position to think that killing Mike Pence was the right idea.
Speaker 3:
The audio is from an interview with ABC News is Jonathan Carl, conducted at Mar-a-Lago back in March. Carl asked him whether he was worried about Vice President Mike Pence's safety during the riot. Mr Trump's then said it was quote common sense for rioters to call for Pence to be hanged. Are you worried about him during that siege?
Speaker 2:
Were you worried about his safety? No, I thought he was well protected and I had heard that he was in good shape. No, because I had heard it was in very good shape, but but no, you heard those chants, that was terrible he could have all the people were very angry.
Speaker 4:
They're saying hang my, because it's it's common sense.
Speaker 2:
It's common sense that you're supposed to protect. How can you, if you know a voter's fraudulent right? How can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress?
Speaker 3:
According to the former president's own administration, the 2020 election was the most secure in American history and there was no evidence of any widespread voter fraud.
Speaker 1:
Bro, it's fucking crazy. He's like but they were mad and they had a right to be it. It makes total sense. Like what are you talking about, bro? Like this is bananas. And we just pretend like. We pretend like it's not real, like he doesn't say these things that he says, and we kind of just gloss over the ship and like, stop and think about how fucking crazy it is. The car was like yo man, I was saying, hang my pants.
Speaker 1:
And Trump was like well, the people were very angry. What Are you kidding me? And then, like there's also like there's also this other thing in there, this little nugget where he talks about he heard that the Pence was in very good shape. Like that's, that's verifiably false. Like, if you pay attention to the January 6 committee hearings, the Secret Service detail in the Capitol that day, they were like telling their co-workers to give their you know family their last wishes. Like tell my wife I love them and tell my kids I said goodbye. This is fucking bananas. But what can you do? Try and, like you know, drink some green beer on St Patrick's Day, get drunk and try and forget about this shit. Yeah, so not only is Mike Pence one of Trump's former cabinet officials who is refusing to endorse his 2024 election campaign. There are also a long list of other code horts from from the blast from the Trump administration past here who are also refusing to support Trump. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 4:
You can now add Pence to the ever-expanding list of former Donald Trump officials who say that the former president should not ever step foot in the White House again. Just let that sink in. This is a list that is quite long at this point, among them his former attorney general, bill Barr.
Speaker 2:
You know, he's like a nine-year-old, a defiant nine-year-old kid who's always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it.
Speaker 4:
His former national security adviser, John Bolton.
Speaker 2:
Between Biden and Trump. There was no conservative on the ballot, so I wrote in the name of a conservative and I would do the same in 2024.
Speaker 4:
His other former national security adviser, HR McMaster.
Speaker 2:
I think it would be terribly divisive for our country for him to run again the former Trump defense secretary, Mark Esper. Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again? No, I mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk.
Speaker 4:
The other former Trump defense secretary, jim Mattis. He said that Trump fomented an insurrection. The former Trump chief of staff, john Kelly, who says Trump has no idea what America stands for. His former acting chief of staff, mick Mulvaney.
Speaker 2:
I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.
Speaker 4:
And his former Joint Chiefs, Chairman Mark Milley.
Speaker 2:
We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator, and we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator.
Speaker 1:
And there are others, sis, what do you mean? There are others. That was the entire fucking Trump administration. That was literally everybody there couldn't possibly be anymore. My God, like, like this is it's been that like. That has to be.
Speaker 1:
Like a Biden campaign ad. Right, we're just going to play a running clip of all of the former Trump administration officials saying y'all can vote for this dude, ok, and then it'll be like this ad was paid for by Joe Biden, right? Or something along those lines, because this is wild. No other presidential campaign in history could survive this type of shit.
Speaker 1:
But but this is like just another day in 2024 where, like, your own vice president is like bro, we can't have you back in the White House, and no one cares. No one cares. It's driving me crazy. I'm losing my mind, like on a regular basis. I'm having to consider whether or not I need to be like taking drugs or going to therapy or something. Because, like, all this stuff happens.
Speaker 1:
And then the media is like well, you know, trump having sex with the porn star without using protection and ejaculating in her in less than two minutes is somehow a sign of a reality that makes him popular with the lads, or something. I don't know what the fuck was going on with seeing it, but like you know it, just I'm not making that up. I mean, I kind of exaggerated it slightly, but like, yeah, they were like literally patting Trump on the back for fucking a porn star. Like, ok, whoop, they do, haven't we all? I mean, maybe I revealed a little bit too much about myself in that regard, but I strapped it up, unlike some former presidents.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, just wow. Moving on. So Trump was at an Ohio rally giving the stump speech for his hand picks and a candidate and, of course, like any time to cut the microphones and let Trump speak for an hour at a time, it goes completely off the rails. We've got numerous hits from from that endeavor, starting off with, you know, trump continuing to go after Fonnie Willis and just unceremonious fashion. Here We'll play the clip.
Speaker 2:
Local cases like Fawney Fawney it spelled Fanny, it spelled Fanny, like your ass right, fanny. But when she became DA, she decided to add a little French fancy Fawney Fawney. And.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, he's a fucking weirdo. I don't know what his problem is. I'm assuming that, like he got into the pill cabin again, you know, with the way his previous administration was handing out drugs, the White House, one can only assume. I have no idea. But yes, he'll eventually be kissing Fawney's Fanny fairly soon here, as he's likely going to be headed to a trial in which he's guaranteed to lose, given that a number of his coconut spiriters in Georgia pled guilty.
Speaker 1:
There's so many developments just with that alone, with just the coconut spiriters. We won't have time to get to that on this particular episode, but we'll swing back by that, hopefully on the next episode. But again, you know how the news goes. There's no guarantee. But yeah, just like going out of your way to talk to the prosecutor who has the opportunity to like you for the rest of your life. Not a great idea, not ideal. No, fanny, like your ass. I can't believe people vote for this dude. It's fucking wild. We also had another delightful development from his speech in Ohio, saying that he would, you know, if elected he would refuse to fund schools that have vaccine mandates. Play that clip for you.
Speaker 2:
And I will not give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate or a mask mandate.
Speaker 1:
Bro, that's every fucking public school in the United States. They all have vaccine mandates, every last thing, every last single one of them, all of them. There's not a one that doesn't. And it's like you know, fuck Tars like this guy bashing vaccines with absolutely no requisite medical expertise in the area, just causing like outbreaks, you know, like Florida, where we're seeing a measles outbreak, measles, dude, measles, we seeing the measles.
Speaker 1:
I mean, there was that guy who had spent the last I think it was 50 years or so in an iron lung after having survived polio, only to die of COVID. You know how mad I would be If I survive polio all this long, all this time, only to die to fucking COVID. You got to be kidding me. And this dude is talking about not only do we not need vaccines if people are sick, we don't need no masks. Man, this is crazy, it's out of control. I mean I just just shoot me in the face, put me out of my misery now, oh my God. And it only gets more insane from there. We'll play the next clip. How about the changing I get out?
Speaker 2:
How about the changing of the names of? We won Fort Bragg, as an example? You know the people in the area are going crazy. They change the name of Fort Bragg, they change the name of Fort Robert E Lee, they change the name of the different Fort's. We won World War One. We won World War Two. We won everything we fought with, really essentially from those forts If we wanted to win a lot of wars, we fight not to win, we fight just to fight because we have stupid people on top. We don't fight wars to win, but we won World War One, world War Two out of these forts and now they change the name and disgrace. It's a very terrible, terrible thing.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, okay, just listening to his voice and his incessant stupidity is just driving me insane and I apologize yeah, but we didn't win. We didn't win World War One out of Fort Bragg, just like. What is he even talking about? And like, does he not? I mean again, I'm sure a number of you probably haven't even given it any real consideration, and not that it's the most important thing in the world, but like, if you think about it, considering the Confederacy is the antithesis to everything that the United States supposedly stands for, like all of the ideals that we proclaim to support and represent. Like, considering the Confederacy is the total opposite of that. Why do we start naming our own military bases after people who betrayed our country and went on to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans? That's, that's fucking wild.
Speaker 1:
But I mean, of course you know if you're pro Confederacy and you're planning on overthrowing the United States government, I could see how you might be offended that we no longer want to celebrate fucking traders. I think that's a good point. I could see how you might be offended that we no longer want to celebrate fucking traders. What can you? What else can you say about this guy? And as I say that, there is yet another clip.
Speaker 2:
You are being now. I'm being persecuted, I think more than anybody. But who the hell does you? Know all my life you've heard of Andrew Jackson. He was actually a great general and a very good president. They say that he was persecuted as president more than anybody else. Second was Abraham Lincoln. This is just what they said. This is in the history books. They were brutal. Andrew Jackson's wife actually died over it. They say, died of a broken heart, but she died over it. He was never quite the same. But they say Andrew Jackson. They say Abraham Lincoln was second, but he had an all fairness. He did have a civil war, so you would think that would cause a problem, right? So you could understand it. But nobody comes close to Trump.
Speaker 1:
Dog Day shot Abraham Lincoln in a bag of the fucking head. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? This is insane. How are we letting this individual run for president in 2024? How is this possible? It doesn't make any sense. This dude is more persecuted than anybody in history, including Abraham Lincoln. I hope you get Abraham Lincoln. Here's the next clip.
Speaker 2:
You know we play the song. You know that I'm going to go and I'm coming. Do we like it? Who liked the rolling? Okay, you had the rolling song, a stone song which we like.
Speaker 1:
I don't know, I don't feel like that's particularly important. I just wanted to make fun of the fact that he's so stoned that he can barely say stones. Anyway, next clip.
Speaker 2:
State against Biden, the largest in the largest margins ever. You know it was interesting. Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him, Barack Hussein Obama?
Speaker 1:
If you were wondering who this individual is, the Trump might be referring to this Barack Hussein Obama fellow that you may or may not be familiar with. Well, he was the first black president of the United States. You know who? His running mate was Joseph R Biden. They were on the same fucking ticket together. What the fuck is he talking about? This is why it's insane that the media spends all their time obsessing over Biden's age, but totally ignoring the wild bonkers stuff that comes out of Trump's mouth, to the detriment of our country at this point, because, again, if Trump wins, it's going to be a disaster, but we'll get to that in just a moment. Before we do so, we've got yet another clip.
Speaker 2:
CNN turned off. Here we are. We campaigned for a year and I obliterate my competition, you know and they said sir, please don't talk about these people that way. They're Republicans. I said I don't give a shit, they're terrible. I said I don't care. My highly paid advisors, sir. You shouldn't talk to them about that. One of the people said they said are you going to run against the president? He said I have no comment. To me that meant he's running. So I hit him hard, I hit him low, I hit him high, just like we did to ISIS. We hit him hard, we hit him low, we hit him high, we hit him in the middle, we hit him from on top and we even came under the ground. We hit this guy so hard. By the time he announced nobody knew what the hell happened. They said what happened to him he's a shell of the man.
Speaker 1:
This is extraordinarily interesting because I'm sure you're wondering, like why have all people is Trump, sitting here wasting all this time talking about Ron DeSantis? Ron DeSantis thought he was done a long time ago. Well, you know, this is very interesting. Well, especially considering, like you know, nikki Haley, who went to Trump harder than anyone, at least you know. Eventually she came around to the idea that she was in a primary with Trump. So maybe, I don't know, you want to like hurt your opponent and convince, you know, people who are supporting him that he's not the ideal candidate. Might be eventually time to, I don't know, levy some attacks against him, I don't know, whatever, but yeah. So, instead of wasting his energy on Nikki Haley or Joe Biden, why is he talking about Ron DeSantis?
Speaker 1:
Um, it has been rumored that Trump is quite displeased with Ron DeSantis' efforts as governor of the state of Florida to unseal some court documents from none other than the Jeffrey Epstein prosecution that ended with him getting a sweetheart deal, and the unsealing of those documents could, in some shape, form or fashion, be very damaging to Trump, very damaging indeed, and apparently Trump is very unhappy about this.
Speaker 1:
Now and again, that is floating around the rumor meal, like it's factual information that DeSantis is indeed doing this. It is not necessarily factual information that this is the motivation for Trump continuing to levy attacks at DeSantis Long after DeSantis has dropped out and Nikki Haley has suspended her campaign and Trump has basically wrapped up the nomination. So I don't know. It's a very weird. It's difficult to make hazzard tales of what is going on with this guy because, as per the usual, whenever he says something out in public, everyone's like huh, I wonder what the fuck he means by that. We eventually come to find out at some sort of confession for something that was going on in the background that we actually had no idea about at the time. Who the fuck knows? It's impossible to tell with this dude. But again, in terms of open confessions and projection, we have one more clip.
Speaker 2:
Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole. That's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country. That'll be the least of it.
Speaker 1:
Now there are going to be a number of individuals across the Internet and all throughout the media claiming that that clip was taken out of context in because he was talking about the state of the auto industry previously and his Well, first of all, he was saying some insane shit about 100 percent tariff on foreign cars coming out of China, which is bad shit, insane. I mean that's taxes Americans have to pay, but people are going to tell you it was in the context of that that he was saying it's going to be a bloodbath if he gets reelected. And you heard what he just said. Like you, literally, like he could have said it's going to be a bloodbath for the automotive industry or some sort of economic bloodbath. That ain't what he said. He said what he said and he meant what he said.
Speaker 1:
And we got to stop pretending like this dude ain't telling us exactly how things are going to go in 2025, if he wins the 2024 election, because he's confessing it openly. He tells us all the time Concentration camps, you know, deporting people, deporting Muslims. If you're pro-Palestinian, I hope you love Gaza because he's going to send your ass over there. Hey, mainstream media, hope you get to take your sheets and giggles with you when you go to them retirement camps because he ain't saying he's going to lock y'all asses up too. He's coming after you.
Speaker 1:
Next, he's telling us what he's going to do. He's open and blatant about it, and you got to stop finding excuses for the things that he says, no matter how much he tries to hide behind plausible deniability. He said what he said and like I think the best way possible for us to look at this is let's, for a second, ignore the context under which he said it's going to be a bloodbath in this country if he loses the election, and lets instead focus on the fact that he already tried to have Congress murdered, and we watched it live on TV with our own eyes. We saw it ourselves. And that concludes this episode of Pouring the Interaction.