Have you ever engaged in a duel of wits with an online troll, armed only with your sharpest Spaceballs quote? Our latest episode is a wild ride through the world of political parody, where I share the tale of a Twitter spat that turned into a crash course in comedy and cultural defense. We then shift gears, confronting the heavy topic of Haitian stigmatization, weaving personal stories with the fabric of current and historical events to paint a picture of an issue that's both timely and timeless.
The political landscape is ever-shifting, and nowhere is this more evident than in the heart of Ohio post-primary analysis. We're peering into the minds of GOP voters, some of whom are entertaining the thought of switching sides or forgoing their vote entirely, as disillusionment with Trump's reign seeps into the Republican stronghold. The discourse takes on a charged energy as we parse through Trump's rally rhetoric, dissecting how his words resonate or repel within the ears of his base.
Crack open the ledger and you'll find our discussion on Trump's financial tightrope walk, with a close look at his dwindling reserves and the strategic dances he's performing to stay afloat. We're not shy about diving into the latest scandals either, as fresh allegations emerge, mirroring past misdeeds. Tune in for an unabridged exploration of the controversial tycoon's history of legal skirmishes, and join me as I sift through the implications of these revelations for Trump's political future.
Have you ever engaged in a duel of wits with an online troll, armed only with your sharpest Spaceballs quote? Our latest episode is a wild ride through the world of political parody, where I share the tale of a Twitter spat that turned into a crash course in comedy and cultural defense. We then shift gears, confronting the heavy topic of Haitian stigmatization, weaving personal stories with the fabric of current and historical events to paint a picture of an issue that's both timely and timeless.
The political landscape is ever-shifting, and nowhere is this more evident than in the heart of Ohio post-primary analysis. We're peering into the minds of GOP voters, some of whom are entertaining the thought of switching sides or forgoing their vote entirely, as disillusionment with Trump's reign seeps into the Republican stronghold. The discourse takes on a charged energy as we parse through Trump's rally rhetoric, dissecting how his words resonate or repel within the ears of his base.
Crack open the ledger and you'll find our discussion on Trump's financial tightrope walk, with a close look at his dwindling reserves and the strategic dances he's performing to stay afloat. We're not shy about diving into the latest scandals either, as fresh allegations emerge, mirroring past misdeeds. Tune in for an unabridged exploration of the controversial tycoon's history of legal skirmishes, and join me as I sift through the implications of these revelations for Trump's political future.
Exactly, and that's why when we go off the rails on something totally off topic, I don't stop it. I was just like, all right, let's cool, let's lean into that. And then no one. And I'm sure if for someone who's listening to this it's probably jarring. When they're used to a certain type of podcast, say, if you like and I'm not comparing us to the Pied Safe America guys, but say you like the Pied Safe America guys, you turn it on, you get your political content. Yeah, they throw in some jokes here and there, but like they don't just like totally veer off the rails into some totally non politically related podcasts for five, 10 minutes at a time. And we can do that. And that's totally fine because, much like the Lebatar show, this is actually a. It is in some ways a parody of what a political podcast is supposed to sound like. The same way, that's the parody of what a sports talk show.
Speaker 3:
I can get frozen pizzas from Lumo Natty for my decent amount no one knows.
Speaker 2:
no one knows what Lumo Natty's is.
Speaker 3:
Yes, everyone knows what Lumo Natty's is, Derek. It's a very famous pizza place in Chicago.
Speaker 1:
It really is.
Speaker 3:
I was waiting for a pizza from there for right now.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and it should get there in the next 40 minutes or so. Fingers crossed.
Speaker 3:
Because you got to thin. One deep dish would have made it take an hour and a half. Um, anyway, I can order seven frozen thin crust pizzas for $134.99, including, and it comes to 19.28 per pizza, but then I still have to cook them.
Speaker 2:
One, two, three, four, hey, this is D-9.
Speaker 3:
This is Ty. This is Ty.
Speaker 2:
And Tara, is that with AIDS or something? No, she has like a upper respiratory tract infection Right terrible.
Speaker 3:
I was like I want to eat you.
Speaker 2:
I'll get to that in just a second. And you're listening to the Pardee Insurrection podcast. So what happened is Tara was posting on Twitter and she was responding to some individual who was accusing her of basically controlling the world because she's Jewish. I don't know what was going on with that, but it was pretty like I this person, ended up posting a meme of like this figure in a hood, doing like the Darth Vader, rather I. I'm sorry I'm getting my Star Wars, my Star Wars lore, confused here. Please, all you Star Wars fans don't kill me Doing the Emperor Palpatine Force lightning thing with his fingers and with the caption you are Jewish, right? And she was like, yeah, and tell me what's wrong with being Jewish in front of all of Twitter miserable, pathetic, anti-semite. And my response to that as in like you know what's wrong with being Jewish because of this meme? And again, I love you Jewish people. I'm on your side.
Speaker 1:
This is the same guy that called her child like a pedophile or something. No, that was a different Somebody. It was like that was a different troll.
Speaker 2:
Anyway, so like my response to this meme and her post was you know, like what's wrong with being Jewish? The Schwartz is in you. If you're a space boss fans, you also probably find that reference, anyway. So this other individual responded to that by saying that I'm black and have AIDS. So yeah, and then that's in case you were wondering why AIDS was on my mind. It's not because I have AIDS or because Tara has AIDS, it's just cause like that was such a random, awkward response.
Speaker 1:
You know what? I bet he was trying to make a. I thought he was being cute and making a Haiti reference because of all the stuff that, all of the unrest that's going on in Haiti and when, like, that was a big trope, that when we were getting a rush of the last time, there was like violence and stuff when a lot of Haitians were coming over.
Speaker 2:
And I remember someone they was bringing.
Speaker 1:
AIDS. Well, yes, that's what they were saying, because they did have Within the population on the island, like at that time, but they were that was the thing to demonize Haitians at that time. And so I remember I don't know if you know who Jason Lee is from Hollywood Unlocked.
Speaker 2:
Oh my God, like I still listen to him. So this is actually going down the right wing Twitter rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:
Well, no, it was one of his co-hosts, blue, she's Haitian and she came in when she was like seven or eight and so she would talk about, like when she was in school and stuff that people, oh, you got that was like how, when she was being bullied and stuff, and then that was the kind of Like what they were getting from people and there was just always like kind of the theme so I think that Cause basically to racist, all black folks come from that one country called Africa, you know All right.
Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
Oh, I just got my one set of sheets that he was going to send me whatever and whatever. Pay me if you want me to say this stuff, you know.
Speaker 2:
If you're going to contract some AIDS, you might as well do it on the best sheets on the plane.
Speaker 3:
I say we scrap the whole beginning of this episode and start again. This is Deanite, this is Carol, this is Ty and you're listening to. This is the part in the Insurrection. Damn it.
Speaker 2:
It's tough, isn't it Part of the AIDS? Yeah, like it takes a little bit of practice to nail that introduction. All right, as per the usual, you're correct.
Speaker 1:
Yes, so smoothly.
Speaker 2:
I appreciate that. So, as per the usual, we've got like endless amounts of news and we won't be able to cover it all, because I just don't understand, like, the rate at which the Republican Party is able to engage in either criminal activity or absolutely fucking bonkers, shenanigans, like it's unparalleled, it's unmatched in the history of the universe. I've never seen anything like it. We're living in an era of insanity that we've just we're here to for never been exposed to.
Speaker 3:
So never been exposed to.
Speaker 2:
That was an awesome song, carol no.
Speaker 3:
I'm great.
Speaker 2:
So it's Tuesday. As we're recording this, the primary in Ohio has wrapped up. Of course, your boy, joe Biden, is crushing the competition. I can't remember exactly what the results were, but I think he's like 80 points up on whatever the next highest vote getter is. That might be Dean Phillips might be.
Speaker 1:
You know what? It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:
Well, no, it doesn't matter, specifically because he's fucking destroying it. He's getting he's getting Vladimir Putin numbers in the primary. He's awesome. He's on some Russia level type shit Good comparison yeah, fire, thank you. I think I do okay from time to time. On the flip side in the Republican primary, however, one Donald J Trump is struggling to beat the competition, even though Nikki Haley has since dropped out. But more importantly than that, there are some interesting exit poll numbers in the G O P primary with what are those poll numbers?
Speaker 2:
according to NBC News, 20 percent of Republicans say they will never vote for Trump, and this is Ohio Republicans. 11 percent of those Republican Party voters say they would be willing to vote for Joe Biden in November, with another 8 percent saying that they will not vote for either candidate in November. Tied.
Speaker 3:
That's bad.
Speaker 2:
Do you know what that number adds up to what? It adds up to 19 percent.
Speaker 3:
Oh, losing. No, yes it exactly.
Speaker 2:
It adds up to Trump getting his ass whooped in Ohio in November. And if this, if Ohio, which is at this point over the last decade a very red leaning state, if this is the number the Trump is getting with the people in his own party in a primary in Ohio, you can only imagine what kind of hellfire will be raining down upon him come election time in November in swing states that are a lot closer to purple than they are to red. I feel about that.
Speaker 1:
You know the thing might. What bother was bothering is the that that 8 percent. Neither I. That's giving me anxiety, that's just but those are just Republican voters.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I mean. Look, I know in an ideal world you want every Republican who's disillusioned with Trump and the Maga wing of the Republicans. Well, I guess it's like the majority of the Republican Party at this point. You'd all want them to show up in November and cast that vote for Joe Biden, right?
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But in the real world we exist, where you know, like the party politics is so polarized that, no matter how much they hate Trump, some of these people just never going to vote for Democrats no matter what, because you know, of course, the Internet brain right has affected such a large majority of people. Like you can't expect that. But the next best thing to vote for Joe Biden when you're, when you were a Trump voter in 2016, is to just not vote at all. Like if 8 percent of Trump's voters from 2016, just all of a sudden disappear. It's gone, like overnight in 2024. It's a wrap. It is a wrap, folks. I'm telling you you're hearing it first here. It is over, it's official. Like I'm calling it now. Like if, if this exit poll is representative of anything, then we're going to get a blood bath.
Speaker 2:
Carol, only in the context of the 2024 electoral prospects, not an actual blood bath. See how hard is that to say.
Speaker 3:
Well, yeah, if that's what I would mean, but I am not, that's well you're not a cycle.
Speaker 1:
The fans of his yeah, but there's just.
Speaker 3:
I just don't get the those idiots who are like where's your blood bath outfit? Like are you saying you're going to like I?
Speaker 1:
thought that was it?
Speaker 3:
when you lose, you're just still going to do a blood bath. What's the plan?
Speaker 1:
They're just like you know. They sit here and they're like he was talking about the auto industry. They said that shit. Like we have not watched this. Fuckers rallies for the past Shit. Well, they were not ever good, but since the big about, it's been four years of just increasingly violent, insightful, hateful rhetoric. But the way that they just go he was talking about it's the exact same sentence and they go. The concept is like dude, you don't even know what context means. Like you never use that word in your life. Like you look.
Speaker 2:
I, because I talked about this the other day on the podcast. But, like, if you listen to the actual quote, he literally tells you the context. Because he was about to say the auto industry and then he said, like that's the least of it, it'll be a blood.
Speaker 2:
That's the least of it. It'll be a bloodbath for the entire country. So, like he literally told you it's going to be a bloodbath. And like, why are we giving this person the benefit of the doubt when we already saw him? Like, send him to my to try and kill Congress. Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1:
You realize, though, that of all the other batshit stuff he says, they just ignore it like he never said it. But for this, for some reason, this particular phrase, they have latched on to, and my only conclusion is because they know exactly what he meant, and they're trying to get out in front of him and spin, spin, spin, spin, spin. But the other stuff said yeah, we can't do shit with this, so we're just going to ignore it and just pretend like he never said it.
Speaker 2:
He said so much insane shit in that rally in Ohio this past weekend that they can't even defend. That's the only thing. You're right. That's the only thing they can focus on.
Speaker 1:
But the crazy thing is to me, that statement that he said is not the worst shit that's come out of his mouth.
Speaker 2:
To me, like every time, it was the worst thing to come out of his mouth at that rally. He called immigrants like non-human, like he called them snakes and all your animals and all kind of crazy. He's great son, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:
And then he don't.
Speaker 2:
And then he doubled down and is like fundraising email, like because, of course, as everyone's out here defending him for like calling it a bloodbath thing, he was talking about the automotive industry. Well, his very next campaign fundraiser email was like bloodbath, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Yeah, it's crazy. So yeah, just like the idea that people I don't understand, like why people continue to fit this nonsense is very, again, endless cultish behavior on the part of these people.
Speaker 2:
But back to the more relevant point about these primary exit polls. Like I know I keep saying this and I know you're going to say, hey, you know, don't get complacent, I'm not being complacent, just the idea is, with the understanding that if we all show up to vote in 2024, they can't win, it's impossible. Like these numbers are so mathematically damning, like there's just there's no mathematical path, there's no path theory, and there's no and it's not. I mean, I guess theoretically there's a way he could dig himself out of this hole, but he's got a number of other disadvantages that he's currently facing, not to mention the fact that he's likely going to be going on trial here in.
Speaker 3:
Wasn't one of the disadvantages already. Yeah, no, I wasn't someone being like oh Carol, she's got a number of disadvantages and also she has several impending criminal charges. I'd be like, wait, what were the other problems that you mentioned? To the up at the criminal charges as an afterthought. Geez, I know kind of what they are, but you know hyperbole, exactly, yeah, it's that bad.
Speaker 2:
We're like. We're not even calc. I'm not even calculating the ongoing criminal jeopardy that he's facing, the legal jeopardy he's facing, including going on trial in New York here and in about a month and, like again, I'll talk about this on another podcast just like the endless amounts of fuckery that he's been engaged in, is his hampered the likelihood of his success in November. So, ty, carol, it is official, trump is now broke Fefe. He can't find an insurance company or any other short term to underwrite his bond to cover the New York civil fraud case judgment. That would Supposedly require him to put up close to $500 million. Happy times.
Speaker 2:
So his Trump or his attorney said in court Did he approach over 30 underwriters to back the bond? Yeah, he went around begging for change from everybody Like, and nobody bit. You know and this is a quote From their file, the legal filing the amount of the judgment with interest exceeds $464 million and very few bonding companies will consider a bond of anything approaching that magnitude. You have any idea what kind of takeaways we might get from this development in the Trump civil fraud judgment? Oh, ok, let's get some.
Speaker 3:
Ok, he's broke as you mentioned, he's a bad risk insurers. Nobody wants anything to fucking do with him because they think he's going to lose the case and they will, and not Not only that judgment because he doesn't pay his debts.
Speaker 1:
I think they also know that he is going to lose the election.
Speaker 1:
Because if the foreign or bond was down there and I know he's like best I can do is an endorsement Elon offered him a loan and I know he's like best I can do is an endorsement Elon offered him a horse. That was it. That was all they had for you know when I do some fucking around Twitter for you, but they know because, if, when he was running in 2016. They believe that he would be helpful. So in his speeches, there was all kinds of like, tom Barrett, all kinds of deals going on with the Saudis behind the scenes. What have you? Jared secured that half a billion dollars to save his 666 Park Avenue property prior to because they were like, ok, this, they, they, there was a, they were hedged the bets, they were, they were betting on the horse, but now, now, even after he's been president.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I mean you got Steve Muchen talking about what he did get a bill Muchen that he did get a billion dollars which nobody talks about. Jared got two but Muchen got one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:
And that's why you reminded me of that, because, like, I totally forget how many people who were in Trump's cabinet literally cashed out on their way out of office, but yeah, cashed out.
Speaker 1:
And then here Muchen is now talking about yo y'all, let's put our bread together and buy this TikTok thing. But, however, not one of them is like let's put our money together and get bail Trump out. Exactly.
Speaker 2:
It's incredible.
Speaker 1:
A lot cheaper than TikTok, but that's because I honestly believe they know that he is going to lose, because otherwise they would be securing their yes.
Speaker 3:
But they also want him to lose. Well, yeah, well, I agree Not necessarily.
Speaker 2:
Well, some of them are like yes, okay, there's a lot.
Speaker 3:
You don't think they would rather have like Nikki Haley, who would like, who would allow them to quietly commit their atrocities, instead of having someone constantly saying like look, here's what we're going to do. Everyone be ready to protest.
Speaker 2:
And I'm like let me, let me do some unpacking, okay. So, yes, obviously there are a number of individuals, even on the right, who want Trump to lose, but they would prefer, if at all possible, that Trump not lose to Joe Biden but to a Republican. But we're past that a theoretically I mean. I guess there's a scenario where Trump could end up not being the nominee, but in all likelihood he's going to be the guy.
Speaker 2:
And if you got the opportunity to purchase a United States president for half a billion dollars, you do that, you pull the trigger on that and you want to know how I know you do that, because chub insurance pulled the trigger on a hundred million. They were like we're going to get in on ground floor, this bitch, yeah. But you know, obviously, after facing some backlash from their shell shareholders, they were like, ooh, maybe we don't know about this whole extra 500 million dollars on top of that hundred million. And that lets you know that if they were willing to put, if, like, the hundred million was too high for them the 500 million being like an impossibility after you've already put a hundred million dollars down, like it's, it's, it's breaking bad over there.
Speaker 3:
And again.
Speaker 2:
I don't know how much of his properties he had to leverage in order to get that hundred million dollars, but he ain't got enough. He doesn't have enough assets. Okay, there's so much. First of all, a lot of these companies were also looking for, like liquid assets to ensure the bond and not looking, you know, for, like real estate and such you know, which is like his major, his major asset but also like yeah, no, but and I talked about this on Tony Michael's podcast earlier today.
Speaker 2:
So if you feel like checking it out, go ahead, your boy, your boy showed out on there, but so can. And I'll give Trump some leeway here and say that you know, I can only assume that with all the properties in his portfolio he does have, you know, a billion to two billion dollars worth of real estate. If it was clean, you know, if it didn't have any loans against the properties and encumbrances and stuff.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
So? But if that were the case, coming up with half a billion dollars, why difficult, especially with New York real estate, should be. There should be a reasonably straightforward process to do that Right. What do you do? You just take out more. You take out five hundred million dollars, million dollars worth of loans against your property. Boom, you got five hundred million in the bank. Boom, you can get the creditors to ensure you're buying. The fact that he can't do that means this shit is underwater, it's underwater.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, like he couldn't. We'll see. I remember nobody seems to be bringing this up right when that judgment came. Well, it was either right before the judgment came down or so he said he put he filled out a paperwork that he had for four hundred million baby. He said he was liquid that he was liquid to that amount.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, where's that four hundred million at? Look, I talked about this on Tonya Michaels too. I'm sorry I keep on repeating like name dropping. It's not really what I'm doing here, but in the filings, where he's like yeah, we got the four hundred million cash. Yeah, okay, Great.
Speaker 2:
But again, like you got a billion dollars it might be over a billion dollars worth of loans and maturing that he has to pay down this year. And like, yeah, maybe he does have four hundred million dollars in the bank, but that shit is basically accounted for already. And like he can't afford to put that in escrow or use that to ensure his bond, because like once, once, that's like once you use that money to get the bond from a shorter, he can't spend it. And like he's got all these loans he's got to fucking pay off. He's like got an incredible run rate at some of his properties that don't make any money, so like that cash is probably accounted for, if he ever had it at all. And again, like another thing, like people are pointing out, like Trump always got a financial monitor in place ensuring that he can't engage in any fucking shenanigans, barbara, something the coach, coach judge Barbara.
Speaker 2:
Yes. So the fact that Barbara Jones, so the fact that in yes sorry, judge Jones, if you're not the coach, barbara Jones so the fact that Trump is unable to like? Well, again, why is Trump in this position in the first place? He got sued by the New York attorney general for fraudulently inflating the value of his assets in order to get these loans and deflating them for tax purposes. Although I don't think you got charged for that particular fraudulent activity. Well, here's the thing. Well, you need to go out and get more loans to get more money to cover this bond. Well, damn that you can't lie on your financial statements, because you got someone right there watching over your shoulder making sure you don't do no more fraud. That's why he's fucked. I don't know.
Speaker 3:
He thought that, with regard to that particular civil case and his financial situation, yes. Not the other reasons he sucked.
Speaker 1:
I don't know why he would think that he would, that that would be a good look and that would make him a good like. You know what? I'ma lend this dude some money while he's lying, but he fucks everybody. And somebody was saying, yeah, he can just file you know bankruptcy to you know to get out of it, but there ain't no way shareholders would be like, yeah, you know what I? You know I stayed for the fascism however.
Speaker 2:
Well, here's the thing like he can't file for bankruptcy and dismiss this judgment because of, like some New York state laws where basically these judgments aren't dischargeable, yeah. Yeah, so bankruptcy wouldn't bail him out. And but, like again, with all these loans coming due, he still might file for bankruptcy. And then again, leticia James is about to. You know we're about to be in Leticia James tower, starting next week, in all likelihood.
Speaker 1:
But Trump is so dumb he would think that he could, because he also thinks he has presidential immunity. He also thinks that the presidential records act meant that he could just walk national security secrets out of a vault.
Speaker 2:
Ty. I don't think he actually believes that. I think that's just what he says, because he's a sociopath.
Speaker 1:
You know what, honestly, I want to believe. He doesn't really believe this, but I think there's no way. Damn. But I think now he is so far gone.
Speaker 2:
I Carol, we got to get her to put on some pants.
Speaker 3:
She's not wearing pants, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:
I just totally distracted, look, so I forgot where. I was going yeah, look again. If the fact that no one's willing to try and buy the future president of the United States for half a billion dollars 861.
Speaker 1:
What was the code 3601.
Speaker 2:
3601.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, in case this is in the podcast, I ordered to tie some pizza.
Speaker 3:
Anybody your code. Do not read your code. We will never call you for your code.
Speaker 2:
So I ordered to tie some pizza because she had an unfortunate incident with Uber Eats where the driver just totally disappeared her fucking food and didn't deliver it in the fashion that they were supposed to. And also, you know, this podcast isn't paying, so to tie a financial situation is a little tight after spending $60 on some pizza and wings and a plane ticket and a plane ticket. Of course, Obviously I left out the part where you're traveling to Chicago, but yeah anyway. So yeah that no one's willing to to plop down $500 million in order to purchase them a present, or at least no one in the United States is willing to.
Speaker 1:
No, nobody wants to spend four, five hundred million dollars to purchase an inmate. That's what they don't want to spend $500 million on.
Speaker 2:
Totally fair. All right, we got to keep it moving because like we've got again more than we can cover it, we'll never get to the end of this. Like it's one of those things where every week I'm like, yeah, so we didn't get to it. It looks delicious, the pizza. So, yeah, looks fantastic. She's in Chicago. For some reason, she decided to get thin crust pizza, but and we were questioning her judgment but upon upon delivery, upon receipt, we're like actually that might not have been a good idea.
Speaker 3:
Luma Nauti's.
Speaker 2:
Luma Nauti's. Yo Shout out to big Luz Go go grab Monster.
Speaker 3:
I would never say a bad word about you, no, your your pizza looks fucking fantastic.
Speaker 2:
I work for pizza.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you don't have to send us any money, just just send us some slices of that Zai yo so Um. In a blow to Trump's defense and the New York hush money trial, which you know I guess technically is the 2016 election it's the original OG election interference trial Judge Marchine wrote I can't say that. Judge Marchine wrote that Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen can testify in Trump's New York criminal trial, but prosecutors won't be able to show the grab them by the pussy tape in the trial and the tape won't be entered into evidence, but the judge will allow for a description of the tape In all likelihood. I guess the judge came to the conclusion that the the tape itself was more prejudices. What was that Then? The value? Oh, I thought Carol made a face.
Speaker 3:
I didn't know what she was saying oh, it was a prejudicial.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that the, the, I can't talk.
Speaker 3:
I only know how to pronounce the words. Don't ask me to do that.
Speaker 1:
It helps because you are also an attorney. Carol.
Speaker 3:
And I only know how to pronounce the words.
Speaker 2:
Fair enough that the tape would be undue prejudice undue prejudice against Trump in this case, even though it's not necessarily directly correlated to the charges.
Speaker 3:
But again, it's not fair that everybody knows all the stuff that he did. It makes them hate him.
Speaker 2:
Well, that was one of the things Trump's legal team argued in suppressing the tape.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I know, it's fucking stupid.
Speaker 2:
They were like oh well, everyone knows about the tape and I'm not so public, like there's no need to enter into evidence. I mean, I guess and look, we don't know what the new New York AG's office like the level of evidence that they're going to present at the trial, and I would assume that, like a lot of a lot of prosecutors had questions about the office bringing this case, bragg's decision making in choosing to go with this over like what ended up being the civil fraud trial and not bringing criminal charges. In that regard, imagine, like if he pulled the trigger on this, then obviously he's probably got some kind of airtight slam dunk case. And especially with Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen who was like in the inside, inside like testifying at the trial, I assume that they think they'll be able to like nail this down pretty easily and I think a lot of people forget, like Michael Michael Cohen, with the trial or with the jail for this shit.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, exactly, and the thing is is I mean I never felt like that about this not being worthy of bringing. I think it's all worthy of being brought. I love it, and so I was never on that bandwagon, but I think your pizza sounds delicious from the way you're eating it.
Speaker 2:
Sorry, didn't mean to derail the podcast.
Speaker 1:
But I was looking at where things are now and how this timeline is like a doomsday clock, how close we are for any kind of accountability and stuff. I'm glad he brought it, because this right now seems to be the. It might be all we get before November. And I want something. I want something. I want something on record, not just knowing that he did it, not just hearing that he did it, not just I want, I want something on his permanent record. I want something that is, is, is, that can go down in the history books.
Speaker 3:
I'd like them to ask him about how he is faring with the ladies these days, so that he could be like well, I think.
Speaker 2:
I think what, what, what I do like about this, the thing about like you're not like a people thinking this isn't like worthy of being brought to trial. I think it's because of the it's presented in the context of like, oh, it's hush money payments, but it's really not what it was. Because, like, they had arrangements for paying off you know, paying off people to suppress stories and they went well outside of that arrangement in this particular instance, because they wanted to make sure that there was no avenue for this story to become public on the eve of the election. So they were laundering money through the Trump campaign and lying about what it was used for to pay Michael Cohen. And then he was taking that money and paying Stormy Daniels out of his pocket so that it wouldn't appear in any financial disclosure forms, like when Trump is constantly streaming election interference, like he really is projecting, because this is literally that like he went out of his way.
Speaker 2:
Because and again, like the thing is, you got to keep in mind I know 2016 was a long time ago, but you got to think about what was going on at the time.
Speaker 2:
This is partly why the the the tape was was largely relevant is because it was around that time when that tape dropped and it almost potentially derailed Trump's campaign.
Speaker 2:
Like, if one more negative story in that regard come out, it would have been over for him, and like the really the only thing that saved him from the tape tanking his campaign is literally later that evening, wikileaks dump Hillary Clinton's emails out into the public in the yes, I'm aware tie, I too am giving the media the finger for like nearly destroying our democracy to cover Hillary Clinton's emails. It's insane, yeah, so like if this story had been made public, there would have ended Trump's run to the White House in 2016 and we never would have gotten a Trump administration. And you know, honestly, trump wouldn't be in his position now. So really, you can't. I mean, of course, his own bad behavior is to blame, but like the fact that he became president is what put him in a position to continue going down this path of of endless crime, along with the scrutiny that ended up getting him indicted, but alas, yes, I know, like endless.
Speaker 3:
He really brought this upon upon himself.
Speaker 2:
Yes, he did.
Speaker 3:
A conceivable way every conceivable way.
Speaker 2:
So I'm going to talk about this on the next episode of the podcast. But it's just, it's also ironic. So I was talking to Karen Ty earlier about how you like there's so many endless Trump scandals, like it's incredible the rate that he's able to commit crime after crime, like you know, every at the end of every day you're like that was a lot. You can't possibly be any any more than you go to sleep and you wake up in the morning and you find out, voila, there was another crime, another you know random criminal endeavor that Trump engaged in, with the breaking news occurring before you even wake up in the morning and it appears as though there was a settlement where a former Trump employee was sexually harassed on the job. And Alina Babel, alina Baba, I don't know what to talk about.
Speaker 3:
That's the one, that's the two, one and only Alina Baba.
Speaker 2:
I somehow combined Christina, bob and Alina Habba into one individual. That would totally that would turn a traffic ticket into like a 20 year prison sentence. But no, alina Habba. It engaged in some shady activity in which she befriended this person acting as an independent entity and persuaded her to hire Alina Habba as her counsel and then got this lady to enter into a disfavorable hush money agreement, an arrangement very similar to what Stormy Daniels endured. The Trump is currently going on trial for here, and it's just insane that, like weeks before an illegal hush money payment trial, news breaks of yet another illegal hush money payment. It's, it's, it's fucking insane. I think I said it was inception, but with felonies.