As the underbelly of politics during the Trump era unfurls before us, we shed light on the menacing threats cast upon Stormy Daniels and her child, overlooked by mainstream narratives. My co-host Ty and I unravel these perturbing ties of allegiance, where loyalty can spell danger and the line between the law and the lawless blurs. We dissect the infamous pipeline from the Trump campaign to incarceration, scrutinizing figures like Michael Avenatti and Peter Navarro, while pondering the audacity of reassembling a team with such a checkered past. Grab a slice of Big Lou's as we juxtapose serious political discourse with impromptu soda runs and pajama-clad escapades.
Ty and I navigate a spectrum of topics, from personal triumphs like his recent wedding to the societal pressures women face, especially in the realm of plastic surgery. We contrast these with the peculiar trajectory of Isabella DeLuca, who swung from the Capitol attack to Congressional employment. Our candid conversation drifts into the intricacies of reality TV and the struggle for self-acceptance in an age of aesthetic enhancement. We underscore the perils of beauty standards and share our unvarnished takes on the pursuit of perfection.
Capping off our episode, we bestow the 'Shithole of the Week' title upon Nancy Mace for stoking political firestorms, lamenting voter disengagement in local elections and the rise of cult-like movements. As we conjure the themes of True Detective, we stress the vital need to remain alert to the threats against democracy, drawing parallels between the cyclical patterns of political discord and the philosophy that history is doomed to repeat itself. This episode is a rollercoaster of political commentary, raw authenticity, and an impassioned plea for vigilance in safeguarding our democratic values.
As the underbelly of politics during the Trump era unfurls before us, we shed light on the menacing threats cast upon Stormy Daniels and her child, overlooked by mainstream narratives. My co-host Ty and I unravel these perturbing ties of allegiance, where loyalty can spell danger and the line between the law and the lawless blurs. We dissect the infamous pipeline from the Trump campaign to incarceration, scrutinizing figures like Michael Avenatti and Peter Navarro, while pondering the audacity of reassembling a team with such a checkered past. Grab a slice of Big Lou's as we juxtapose serious political discourse with impromptu soda runs and pajama-clad escapades.
Ty and I navigate a spectrum of topics, from personal triumphs like his recent wedding to the societal pressures women face, especially in the realm of plastic surgery. We contrast these with the peculiar trajectory of Isabella DeLuca, who swung from the Capitol attack to Congressional employment. Our candid conversation drifts into the intricacies of reality TV and the struggle for self-acceptance in an age of aesthetic enhancement. We underscore the perils of beauty standards and share our unvarnished takes on the pursuit of perfection.
Capping off our episode, we bestow the 'Shithole of the Week' title upon Nancy Mace for stoking political firestorms, lamenting voter disengagement in local elections and the rise of cult-like movements. As we conjure the themes of True Detective, we stress the vital need to remain alert to the threats against democracy, drawing parallels between the cyclical patterns of political discord and the philosophy that history is doomed to repeat itself. This episode is a rollercoaster of political commentary, raw authenticity, and an impassioned plea for vigilance in safeguarding our democratic values.
One, two, three, four, you know. Another thing that people conveniently leave out is that something Daniels enjoyed at death threats to her and her child, that her life, which was a good beginning indication of how this motherfucker was going to be his MO. And though the lunatics who follow him. You know that she was getting death threats and to a certain degree and they're like going hiding and shit Like that was something I feel like did not get enough attention at all. No, no, this single woman.
Speaker 2:
And well, she's married now, I think. But but, is she? Yeah, but regardless of that fact, yeah.
Speaker 1:
Well, she was dating out in here, and wouldn't she?
Speaker 2:
I don't know if they were, were they? I don't really know if they were dating.
Speaker 1:
I really don't keep up with the bumping others for a little bit.
Speaker 2:
I mean so that's too I just can't even conceive of. I know Avonati was representing her and again, like another shady figure from our past that we thought would like never as ugly had. Hopefully we'll never see him again. I think he's in jail for a long ass time for committing a range of crimes. I'm just happy that at this point we're likely to see Trump at least face one criminal trial before the election and yes, it's the one everyone poo pooed with like. Obviously, Other than like the Mar-a-Lago documents case, this is probably the easiest one to prove is basically just paper. It's paper trail here. Are you OK?
Speaker 3:
That's the hard part. I have an HMA back.
Speaker 2:
OK, well, well.
Speaker 1:
I had to get some. I had to get a soda from Vending Hi.
Speaker 3:
I left us Were you at the hall with no pants.
Speaker 2:
OK, it's an audio only medium.
Speaker 3:
There's no pants.
Speaker 2:
All right. So Ty has her pajamas on, but like the bottoms are, I don't want to say skimpy, but and so she's in a hotel room in Chicago where she traveled there for a family event. But she just, you know, up and left in the middle of the podcast is people who want to do around here and went out to the vending machine to purchase. And what is that? An orange Fanta.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it was either this, or Pepsi or Mountain Dew.
Speaker 2:
Well, you had another option as well that wasn't on the vending machine, and that option was to wear pants.
Speaker 3:
So that's not going to quench her thirst.
Speaker 1:
Yes, that is.
Speaker 2:
Hey is going to quench somebody else's thirst out there in the hallway with no pants.
Speaker 1:
It's not that at this hospital, except for whoever stole my pizza, and hopefully you're staying at a hotel and not a hospital. No, nor am I staying at a hostel, it's an act.
Speaker 2:
No, ok, so moving on. It's as sad as I am to move on from from Trump's scandals, oh wait, we've got yet another one. So the Trump campaign to prison pipeline has come full circle. With Trump's former campaign manager, paul Manafort, I will return to the Trump 2024 campaign in order to help him navigate the Republicanvention, as well as fundraise for the election.
Speaker 1:
Oh good my mother for.
Speaker 3:
Well, what are his other campaign? Guys in prison.
Speaker 1:
The ones he didn't pardon.
Speaker 2:
Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned that because Peter Navarro, famous from the Trump's 2020 campaign in the effort with the fraudulent electors to overthrow the legitimate 2020 election, he is actually headed to prison today. So like again more evidence to support the theory of the Trump campaign to prison pipeline.
Speaker 1:
You think Peter Navarro going to come out with cornrows?
Speaker 2:
No, but he's going to come out with the extra large size butthole.
Speaker 1:
Oh, by that.
Speaker 2:
You know, you never know what people's particular taste might be, especially in prison.
Speaker 1:
Maybe discover that you know he's been denying himself.
Speaker 2:
Who knows? I don't even want to think about it. Carol, that's my dear. How familiar with you? Very familiar. I don't even know what I said. Of course you're very familiar with you. How familiar are you with Mueller's 2016 Russia investigation?
Speaker 3:
Not super.
Speaker 2:
Not super. You weren't following that super closely at any point.
Speaker 3:
I mean, I've read at least summaries of it at some point.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, she happened to read his report by any chance, parts of it, that's okay. So, paul Manafort, obviously a blast from our past, regrettably coming back to haunt us in 2024.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, only because Steve Bannon is in the middle. I don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 2:
Well, Steve Bannon is he's running point on project 2025, basically so yes.
Speaker 3:
Why is he not in jail?
Speaker 2:
For some strange reason, the judge in his case decided to grant a stay of his prison sentence while he was out on appeal. So he basically gets to run around for free until his appeal is finished. And it's the same charges as this as Navarro, like refusing to testify to Congress, the J6 committee yeah, I don't know what specific thing that judge had going on, but this other judge in the Valls case was like no dog, you're going to jail. Um, but yeah, steve Bannon's still like Trump is getting the band back together from 2016. I guess he feels like it worked.
Speaker 3:
If it worked, then it can work now, although, again, like we've Can you go back and make it so that people don't know he's a fucking loser, that he is being prosecuted for all of these?
Speaker 1:
Because putting the team back together that got caught the first time. Yeah, that's always.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's a genius plan.
Speaker 1:
You know what? Let me, let me try fresh team.
Speaker 2:
You know no, but I just thought we'd never be seeing Paul Manafort's face again. Obviously I was. Yeah, I mean after getting indicted for money laundering and tax fraud and and um, what obstruction of justice and witness tampering, uh in in the Mueller investigation. You think, hey, maybe like you, get this pardon in in 2020, right before Trump left office after losing the election. You'd like, oh, paul Manafort would stay out of it. Stay out of it, the criminal enterprises, right Wrong.
Speaker 1:
What's crazy is that usually you know you get in trouble and then you know you get you a second chance you like. Oh my God, I'm just going to lay low. You know I'm a mind my business, Keep my head down.
Speaker 2:
None of these motherfuckers can do that.
Speaker 1:
Well, he's better like. Thanks for the pardon, Let me go do some more Fuckery. Well, Casey, let me tell you what.
Speaker 2:
I think this went super under reported. Uh, but one of the people who were largely responsible for organizing the rallies on January 6th and, I think, involved in some of the fundraising, was Paul fucking Manafort, right after he got out of jail.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, well, what do you? When you think your goal is the only way, then you're just willing to do it. They're just willing to do anything for it, they're willing to double and triple down Because they they have a they have a government.
Speaker 1:
they seriously thought none of that shit was going to matter, Cause Trump was going to be installed as president again.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I mean, I guess, if you're like well, you know, someone comes to Paul Manafort and like, hey, trump got you out of prison, uh, we're going to need you to engage in it, like in this overly complicated plot to get him reinstalled as president, like Paul Manafort is probably like, well, how could it go wrong?
Speaker 1:
They really thought that they had so many fail safes. Well, if this don't work, we got this yeah.
Speaker 2:
Look, I can tell you where it went wrong. Like if, if I were planning an attack on the Capitol after I lost the 2020 election and I was in the White House and they'd be like, oh, you've got my you know, my private army lined up, huh. And then you look out into the ether, into the abyss, with the, the, the MAGA army, and who are your generals on that day? You've got, on the one hand, uh, with, with the, the proud boys, you've got, uh, a brown skinned Hispanic white supremacist which don't make Afro yes, afro Latino, white supremacist.
Speaker 2:
Yes, that individual is likely not going to get get the job down, the job done. And then, on the other hand, with the oath keepers, you have a guy who supposedly graduated from Harvard but he wears an eye patch because he shot himself in the fucking face. And these are the guys who are leading your coup, and you'll wonder why it didn't work.
Speaker 1:
Well, for one thing, the first rule about coup club should have been you don't post shit on Facebook about coup club, don't like you know like.
Speaker 2:
Well Ty, they didn't post about it in advance. How were they supposed to draw up shirts?
Speaker 1:
That's true, how are they supposed to coordinate Exactly?
Speaker 2:
Exactly Um. So apparently we've got newly obtained video that shows the movement of the people who erected the gallows and noose on the western side of the Capitol on January 6th Go on From early in the morning pre dawn hours, long before the attack on the Capitol.
Speaker 3:
So what do they got?
Speaker 2:
Um, so it's kind of a. It's kind of like security cam footage. It is reminiscent of the pipe bomber.
Speaker 3:
Okay, but they haven't drawn any conclusions yet that have been shared with us.
Speaker 2:
No, I'm not necessarily sure they've identified exactly who it is, but like one of the things you can take away from the video is just how fucking brazen they were. They're just like wandering around DC with fucking wood and rope and just wandering towards the Capitol. It's like the sun hasn't even come up, so they're like the only ones out and they're like dragging this fucking wood thing around and then, like setting up shop on the Capitol with the wood building gallows, got the rope hanging there and like look, we've all seen the infamous photo. Looks like the gallows and then the noose and then, like you can see the fucking Capitol building through the gallows. Like you've all likely seen it because it's in the fucking imagery of the podcast. That's how I know you've seen it.
Speaker 2:
In case you're wondering how I came up with like the podcast, the podcast image, it's like it's it's not a metaphor per se, but it's like a amalgamation of like it sums up the entirety of the Trump experience is like at the top it's got the gallows and the Capitol and the Trump flag. It's like you know the fuck around aspect of like the Trump experience. And then, like in the middle it's like your tour page out and then you fast forward and at the bottom it's got the Trump perp walk photo and like that's. That's the find out portion of the Trump experience. In case you were wondering, you know who came up with the imagery for the podcast.
Speaker 1:
Think about the gallows and stuff. I'm like they went out there like 6am, Then the motherfuckers just left it there and then came back at like one in afternoon and put it together, yeah. And it's like they know, because you know the city was on alert. You got what? Folks just walking by this shit.
Speaker 2:
Time they was, they were dragging the fucking gallows out to the capital. At the same time, if someone was outside the RSE plan bombs, baby. Like you can't tell me that they didn't have all this planned in advance. Like someone had had had to have coordinated so much of this for this to happen in such a it's just too concerted of an effort for not to have been organized by at least a handful of people who knew what the entirety of the plot was.
Speaker 1:
Night before you got the war room, Then the next morning you got the litches and then you got them just leaving. That it's like it was way, of course, and even there is so much. And here he is just took all the way over the RSE and just moved his headquarters in Mar-a-Lago and fired everybody. So it's basically just the Trump National Committee at this point and that's. You know it. But it's just and that's what he's doing. He's planning shit out in the open right now and the media is like, oh my gosh, Biden sure was mad During his state of the union. Is he on? Adderall Is he on? And these people are doing the most.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I just I'm disappointed in the media, like again, like we beat that topic to death. It gets exhausting. But yes, there's all this other stuff, it's obvious. Other like obviously damning. It's just the daily use of shit that the media can be covering. They focus on the stupidest things and it's like it has to be like a choice right, like it can't be an accident that every time, like something crazy breaks with the Trump stuff like you know, they're covering, I don't know, biden sneakers, I don't know.
Speaker 3:
Not even the one selling sneakers.
Speaker 1:
Yeah exactly Right, you know. It seems that they only want to interview Trump supporters when they're like yeah, 80 percent of Republicans still back Trump and they only want to cover Democratic supporters when they're like Biden's not getting my vote because he's genocide, joe. It's like there's no.
Speaker 2:
there's no equity in no, in the covers, like I don't think I don't think mainstream media has interviewed a Biden voter since, like the 2016 primary Legit like I don't think.
Speaker 2:
I've seen it and you know I can't consume every hour of every single mainstream like that's impossible. But like I listen to quite a bit of shit, especially on MSNBC. I heard them talk to a Biden voter in years, years. It's twenty twenty four. He's been president for four years. I mean it doesn't say the twenty sixteen, I meant the twenty twenty proper. I haven't heard them talk to a Biden voter since. Like I voted for dude in in spring of twenty twenty on Super Well, I guess it's still winter, but Super Tuesday of twenty twenty I haven't seen them have a single. Like I voted for Joe Biden and I still support Joe Biden voter on there at all in years. It's insane.
Speaker 2:
Um so, one last topic before we get to our shithole of the week award. So a former congressional aide for Lee Zeldin, who also eventually came to work for Paul Gossar, who has now turned social media influencer, was arrested for her role in the one six attack on the Capitol Is Isabella DeLuca was arrested last Friday on misdemeanor charges, including theft of government property, disorderly conduct and entering a restricted area. She is most notably known for confiscating a table at the Capitol that was later used in the assault on like a police officer or something like that. Um yeah, and I just bring this up largely because of the implication of the fact that someone was brazen enough to attack, attack the Capitol on January 6th and then go in turn for the Republicans of Congress. That's fucking bananas, you know, as I'm getting like a barrage of complaints from right wingers telling me that January 6th was Nancy Pelosi's fault. Yeah, why, one of these insurrectionists go word for the right wing, not jobs. Huh, you got any explanations for that, by any chance, I?
Speaker 1:
just can't with them. No, oh, I'm full.
Speaker 2:
Was your pizza delicious? Absolutely. And yeah, shout out to you know our guy Big Lou up in Chicago for making the dopest ass pizzas. Are you on the west side, the north side? What's our?
Speaker 1:
I am. I don't know where Julia is. I think it's west. Because then when I asked the guy do I go north or west? When I was getting on the thing to get out here, it was like oh, that would be, I think it's Southwest.
Speaker 2:
Anyway, shout out to you Lou Malnati's, y'all are dope fee my co-hosts, especially when it's late at night and like all the good stuff is was was largely closed. I mean there was like Popeyes In some Barker joints still open. Yeah, taking care, taking care of Ty here. We need her in the fight and you know we can't defeat democracy on a empty stomach. She's, and giggles is gonna be very upset with us promoting another competing brand.
Speaker 3:
You can eat your crossover, send me some sheets and pizza.
Speaker 1:
My husband in hours you can.
Speaker 2:
Fair amount of pizza while sleeping well, while laying on your sheets from sheets and giggles as ties doing in this hotel room, although I'm sure those sheets aren't nearly as comfortable. Yeah, hopefully your husband is alive. In case you missed it, tie is newly married, so congratulations again. On On on, hopefully, what is a lifelong in love field endeavor? And if not, you know if it doesn't last for the rest of your life? At least you got like a 40,000 orgasms out of it, considering how much you have been engaged in adult friend fronder level Proclivities.
Speaker 3:
Right be to do your wedding speeches.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, no, please don't, but no, so back to Before times of day man. Yeah, high quality problems. So back to Isabella DeLuca. Like again, like and I don't say this to brag I've got like 200 and some thousand Twitter followers. How does bitch got 300 and some thousand Twitter followers? Like? That's insane that this person attacked the Capitol, went to work for Congress and then came out of it with hundreds of thousands of Twitter followers. It's bananas, like just.
Speaker 1:
There's probably a good bit are insurrectionists and traders, but you know the right wing, they love those bots too.
Speaker 2:
That's totally fair.
Speaker 1:
They, they get by on their side. So their engagement is probably up with the bottom, you know you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2:
So the thing is, now that she's been, she's been arrested in charge.
Speaker 2:
Like you know, I don't know what the prison sentence will be, probably months, but I mean, it's entirely possible that they might hit her with some more serious charges in the fact that she was working Frisselden and Gosar after the coup. So she's worse representatives at that, yeah. But like, think about it. Like what if she enters into co-op, a cooperation agreement, fbi, and she's got some dirt on Republicans from having worked in their office because like again, like there's no telling what the fuck they've been up to for the past three years? Like she could be out here. You know, if I were Zeldin and Gosar, I would be concerned about what I may or may not have said around this person.
Speaker 3:
Mmm, that is true because I gotta go troll that Isabella person on Twitter. You don't have to Not remind her about the fucking around in the finding out Like this, probably on there a bunch already.
Speaker 1:
That's for my eye. I don't have TV, so I don't have cable.
Speaker 2:
So that's okay, you have a podcast.
Speaker 1:
This is the first time that I've seen like I'm what. For some reason, I ended up on Bravo and and Vandepump rules, which was used to be one of my guilty pleasures. Apparently, they don't figured out how to squeeze even more out of these kids. Well, they're not kids anymore, because they all look like 65 year old housewives from Beverly Hills with this much plastic surgery. These 30 year olds and had but Totally unrelated.
Speaker 2:
I can't believe that the challenge in Vanderpump rules are still on TV. You can get back to whatever.
Speaker 1:
And I'm like I got this. The sound is down, but I can just look at their faces and they're all miserable, that much I know. I can see Brittany yelling at Jackson. I can see Kristen crying because she's always crying, Sheena being Sheena, and I'm just looking, but I'm, it's their faces. They have all had so much plastic surgery. I was like what the fuck? Oh, that's Lala. I'm like fuck, that's Katie.
Speaker 2:
Oh, I Can totally see how this has enraptured your attention and distract you from a coup against the Legislative branch of the United.
Speaker 1:
States like those women. They're only two steps. They could be invited to Mar-a-Lago. Let's just say the quality of work on their faces. They could be guessed down at Mar-a-Lago for one of Trump's Shindig's with those.
Speaker 3:
I too none had any work done.
Speaker 2:
No, you look absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1:
I don't have eyes on my hands, look old. David at the time I was like oh my god, look at my IRA. I have man hands and he always says no, but I got a. I got a full set today, peek-n-white. I haven't had my nails done in a really, really long time. Nice, I was walking around Chicago. I treated myself.
Speaker 2:
I'm generally against women getting plastic surgery. I like, and not in like a judgmental fashion, like if you want to get plastic surgery, like feel free. But like a lot of times, the shit just it doesn't make you look younger or more attractive, it just makes you look like you had plastic surgery Distorted and it's like, yes, exactly so. It's like why did you even do this?
Speaker 1:
I Was looking at a video. Where was I? Oh, at the nail shopping, but they're just on music videos. That was Grant Stefani and, like Gwen Stefani, is in her mid fifties and she looks fucking amazing. She looks so good Because a lot of these women or girls, or whoever they, start getting it so early, like when they're twenties, and then it's like, once you start down that rabbit hole, your face isn't going to grow back into its old self. Like you're, you're, it's a wrap, it's a wrap.
Speaker 2:
So I flirted with the idea of bow tops, but no, what's really the worst really, and I'm sorry, people Again, like I don't want to just like disparage women's appearance especially, just not generally speaking, but just just like they get the plastic surgery when they're young and then like they get older and then they gain weight. And now that they're like they've got plastic surgery and weight gain and then they like like they pile it on by taking the ozempic to lose the weight and then it really makes their face look really strange. It's like, oh my, what, like poor decision making there. And the lesson here is like, if you can avoid it and I'm and I'm sorry society puts these pressures on women but like, please, for God's sakes, you, you're probably lovely, you don't? You don't need to have surgery on your face.
Speaker 3:
Probably lovely.
Speaker 2:
Women's listening to this podcast and they're like, hey, we were just at the Capitol with like an insurrectionist who worked for Congress. How the fuck did we get the plastic surgery and Vanderpump rules?
Speaker 3:
I don't know, the last topic of Arizona's investigation into the fig electors.
Speaker 2:
No, sorry, carol, we're not going to get to that one today, but like as a callback from before we started this podcast, when I was talking to Carol and Ty here I was saying like my original kind of the, the blue Print that I had for the podcast was like a vert and I don't know how many people listen to the show, but like it's one of my favorite, one of my favorite podcast, slash radio shows slash sports talk shows, but it's the Dan Lebatard show with Stu gots, if any of you are familiar with that, and it's kind of like you know how, if you listen to sports talk or whatever, like it's kind of got a pretty recognizable format and then this this show is like often a subtle parody of what a sports talk show should kind of sound like, until they wander down these rabbit holes and and and they kind of just go off topic and they, just once they wander off topic, the joke is they just continue to wander off topic. They like never bring it back to sports. Like if you listen to it, like it has all these rhythms of the sports talk show and then they just get distracted and then they never go back to sports and then they'll start a new segment and it'll start off on a sports topic and then they'll wander off and then, like the next thing, you know, it's been eight minutes and they haven't said anything about sports and now you're getting like literally that right now on this podcast we're kind of like a parody of what a political podcast would sound like. Anyway, so we're heading into the home stretch here with our shithole of the week. Do either of you by any chance happen to have any nominees?
Speaker 2:
Yup.
Speaker 1:
Tess, tess, tess, nancy Mace.
Speaker 2:
Continue.
Speaker 1:
Nancy Mace gets my shithole of the week nomination.
Speaker 2:
But not you have to tell the, you have to tell the audience specifically why, why does she get the nomination?
Speaker 1:
So what's her name? What's her name? Catherine, katie Mace, nancy, mace, nancy, say how forgettable she is. I wish so.
Speaker 1:
She goes on an interview with George Stephanopoulos and he proceeds to ask her how she can square as a survivor to support someone who has been found guilty by a jury of having committed sexual assault and then for defaming that person. She said that it was civil rape, so not really rape. Then she said that because there were no criminal charges, it wasn't really rape. Then proceeded to say that she was raped and she didn't press charges because of the stigma. And then she spent the next day melting down and accusing Stephanopoulos of rape, shaming her. Then she turns around and claims that she received because of George Stephanopoulos that's what pissed me off the most All of these threats that they were going to, that her daughter and herself were going to be raped because of George Stephanopoulos. Then she proceeded to fundraise, or at least try to Off of that.
Speaker 1:
She is just gross, gross, gross On every fucking level. She's done women a disservice. She's done herself a disservice, every survivor a disservice. She just all around. I can't stand that woman, her need for gratuitous self-promotion, even in the most heinous way.
Speaker 2:
Ty, tell us how you really feel.
Speaker 1:
It's a vile man, it's just, it's really vile. I want her to fucking go away.
Speaker 2:
All right. So now that you brought all of that up, I absolutely have to cross on your nomination, Carol, I'm gonna assume.
Speaker 3:
Yes, I was just reading about Nancy Mace.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, If you could give a double shit hole of the war, should hold a weak award to one person like she would double shit hole Cause it was fucking disgusting and terrible. The defense again for supporting Trump, saying it was like first of all it was civil and then like it wasn't. Actually the only reason the jury couldn't conclude that it was genital to genital contact is because Trump's dick is so small that she couldn't tell the difference between his dick and his fingers. That's literally and that's why Nancy Mace gets the shit hole of the week award. So closing thoughts here. Carol, I'll let you go first If you have anything.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, just remember to stay engaged and don't forget your local elections. We just had one in my town today. It didn't go how I wanted. It sucks. People didn't even like fucking turn up to vote, and it's bullshit. Don't let that happen.
Speaker 2:
Now I've got someone on my they should have been listening to the podcast, because you were regularly reminding them.
Speaker 3:
No, let's trust these. Who was a?
Speaker 2:
moony. Oh no, the moonies are back.
Speaker 3:
The moonies are back. Are you serious, oh Jesus, From upon information and belief. This person is a moony Moony. I met her. She's nice and she's nice.
Speaker 2:
Uh-huh, uh, I always tell them to push marriages. Maybe we'll get lucky and then, like I don't know, they'll engage in some kind of suicide pact. I mean not that I typically endorsed the idea of people committing suicide, but I would prefer she did what happened to all the good cult leaders?
Speaker 1:
Aren't they supposed to be leading their people?
Speaker 2:
Ty. Typically, what happens to the most persuasive of cult leaders is they end up getting their followers along with themselves killed.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, like good old days right.
Speaker 2:
Like oh. So you're saying like, why don't the moonies have a? Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1:
I'm dealing with these people. They have been on this spaceship already, right?
Speaker 2:
This podcast has definitely gone off the rails and I hope no one important is listening because we probably just got canceled. Ty, your closing thoughts go.
Speaker 1:
As I started to say earlier, I'm just annoyed at the lack of creativity and originality for these magas. When they are responding to something and they say it with the utmost of confidence, like this guy was, like oh, if we're giving student debt, we're just passing it on to our future generation, and I look for those bud words and I go. Future generations huh, how many times have you used that phrase? And then how? And I'm going through and I go. You know, I'm pretty sure I go. You pretty much studied every word of this till you got it down. So when you spout it, it rolls off your tongue so naturally that it sounds like you put some thought into it. You sound educated, I go.
Speaker 1:
However, their use of verbiage verbatim always reveals that they're in a fucking cult. But it is getting beyond annoying. Like it's no matter what, then they just they are just always jump in with the same thing, like right now everybody's about oh, trump lowered insulin. Biden raised the price of insulin, then he lowered it. Now he's taking credit for it. Those memes were going around yesterday and I was like well, actually Trump's plan hadn't been fully implemented yet. Because that's because I was trying to be rational. I was like you know, and it was also only available to seniors that had certain plans under Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D and for those that were at federally funded centers. When Biden felt like all, all everyone should have access to insulin, including children, of which hundreds of thousands have type one diabetes in this country, and the guy responded oh great, so it's going to cost us 10 times as much. It was just so dumb, oh.
Speaker 2:
Jesus.
Speaker 1:
Christ, this guy was. This guy was like wow, that goal post moved real fast.
Speaker 2:
Like you were like you hit him with too many facts and his brain melted like. E-line during that diamond interview. Oh my gosh, that yeah. No, I'm sorry I got you off track. Continue with your closing thoughts.
Speaker 1:
It's just so, because then it's like you can't talk to them rationally. It's like you just, I just blocked, and then it's like, oh, I trigger the snow, a little chart, so they bought this. It's a lose, lose just engaging, so just save your fucking brain cells. These people and I know there are some people like Dan who I love, and others who love to keep the hope that just reach out to your, your friends on the other side of the aisle, and they don't want to know better, they don't want to do better, because that information is there.
Speaker 1:
It is not difficult to find, because all these motherfuckers had no problem finding every conspiracy theory when it came to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. And what is the rate of this? What is the survival rate of that? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. They spent copious amounts of time on the internet looking for that bullshit. But you're going to tell me that something you just can't go to, like congressgov and see that your representative voted against this bill, that they're in your face, like when somebody says that shit makes me want to look it up, it makes you want to go wow, did they really do that? Did that really happen? And then I'm like shit, you know. But it's like they, they're comfortable In their ignorance that they are putting out there as intelligence.
Speaker 2:
All right. This, this is continuing to sound indiscernible from Elon Musk.
Speaker 1:
Because he, he is his, arrogance his. But it's not just that. I don't understand why that motherfucker has security clearance. I don't know why?
Speaker 2:
All right, this is going to be an entire different part. We're just going to have to do another hour long episode of the podcast and it will just be all your closing thoughts because, like we, this would be endless.
Speaker 1:
I said I'm tired of MAGA. They sound like talking dolls and that's it.
Speaker 2:
All right. As for my closing thoughts, I just like to reiterate how, when it comes to Republicans, like histories repeating themselves, everything's coming full circle. They can't original anymore. As Tony Michael was saying earlier when I was on his show Bringing Paul Manafort back, there's a microcosm of this specifically involving Paul Manafort. So when he was working for Victor Yanukovych over there in Ukraine and Yanukovych was competing against one of his rivals, you know, one of their strategies to get him reelected was to Trump, you know, present these trumped up charges against his opponent. You know, basically, these, these fraud, fake, political corruption charges there they were pretty just based on little to no evidence, and one of the campaign strategies was, like you know, run on this platform of lock her up. And then, of course, trump imports that right on over in his presidential campaign in 2016 with the Hillary Clinton emails. Like, obviously, hillary hadn't engaged in anything remotely worthy of warranting criminal charges, but they just ran with the locker up slogan anyway, and it turned into a thing as that comes full circle and Manafort reinvents that, and Manafort gets indicted and goes off the jail and gets pardoned and gets out and immediately started starts engaging in a criminal activity. Now he's being welcomed back to the campaign with open arms.
Speaker 2:
Steve Bannon here, who's yet to face his criminal sentence, is deeply involved with organizing Project 2025, where Trump will hollow out the government of, you know, the lifelong federal employees and replace them with cronies like that's. That's coming full circle with, with, with the like. He's literally going on on trial and in about a month here for hush money payments, and then today we get breaking news of yet another illegal hush money payment. Like, it seems impossible, like the the past is constantly repeating itself, like things from the past are coming back to haunt us. Like I never thought I'd see. You know, things from the Mueller report, you know, come back to harness in 2024. But then you got the CEO of CHUP financial, who's front of this dude, a hundred million dollars, being directly associated with Dmitri Coms, or rather Dmitri Simes, features prominently in the Mueller report. The fact that it's an incessant, endless circle, like. I don't know if you've watched True Detective season one, that's my jam, but when your boy?
Speaker 1:
was like really good.
Speaker 2:
I also rather enjoy the newest season of True Detective. Check that out. I have an opportunity. I'm going to spoil it for you, but, like a highlight quote from the original season was time as a flat circle, and it feels as though that applies especially well in this instance. Like the Trump campaign is a flat circle and, of course, like if all of these things tend to repeat themselves and what's old is new and you can only assume that if somehow Trump manages to win reelection, that he's going to kick off his is 2025. The inauguration the same way he went out on January 6th of 2021 by trying to destroy what's left of our democracy. You just got to be vigilant and make sure we don't let these fuckers finish what they started on January 6th. And that concludes this episode of part of the interaction.