The Classic Trump And Dump Scheme

Ever wondered how media outlets decide who gets airtime and what that means for our news? We spark the debate with a critical look at MSNBC's controversial choice to hire Ronna McDaniel, questioning the consequences for our public discourse. Then, we swap the intensity for a bit of tech amusement as we coach co-host Ty on mastering her new microphone—expect a symphony of techie tips, chuckles, and a few jokes that teeter on the edge.

Hold onto your seats as we delve into the staggering $14 billion valuation of Trump's Truth Social. The valuation stands in stark contrast to Reddit's recent public offering, and we're peeling back the layers of the financial spectacle involving Jeffrey Yass and the SEC's magnifying glass. Plus, we assess the maze of Trump's legal hurdles, including his legal maneuvers and reduced bond requirements, with insights from Tristan Snell on how to hold elusive figures accountable.

As we near the finale, the spotlight turns to the anticipated Trump election interference hush money trial set for April. We scrutinize the potential of a gag order and the GOP's unnerving pre-election tactics, hinting at plans beyond the ballot box. We're not just delivering news; we're unfolding the chapters of a narrative that could redefine the political landscape come November. Strap in for a journey through the intersections of politics, media, and justice, where the stakes have never been higher.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

I get that her job is to be a public figure man, but no, but it's again.

Speaker 2: 0:05

It's not even about her, it's the outlet, it's like it's the same.

Speaker 1: 0:08

I know what you're saying, but Ty was saying something different.

Speaker 2: 0:11

Yeah, but I was but that's what I was saying. It was like that she's not even the issue. It's the same thing with with MSNBC hiring Ronna McDaniel. Right, it's like it's it's msnbc here that is the problem. Like yeah, well, I mean, I guess in this case it's also mcdaniel's fault, but like ain't no what. Nobody forcing msnbc to get that bitch a job and no one was forcing the sun to put out all these fake pictures what nobody clamoring for that, what nobody said here like y'all need to have a higher romney yo like they were under some pressure and shit no they did this of their own.

Speaker 3: 0:47

On their own, yeah, it was fucking crazy but yeah, and then what?

Speaker 2: 0:50

the real crazy part about the sun, though, is when they got busted for the photoshop picture. They were like oh well, you know, kate's just been experimenting with her photoshop hobby, like they blame her for the fake pictures.

Speaker 3: 1:03

That was crazy, all right so I thought that prince williams sent it in. I thought that, like when the ap said that the source, or unless they were talking about the sun, but they were like okay, the source, take this down.

Speaker 2: 1:14

Okay, well, yes they sourced him for the quote on kate having a photoshop hobby which is just bananas. But anyway, we'll get started. I'll, um, I'll, count us in. You got to get the mic pretty close to your face, ty I know you're used to, can't lie down and yeah, I know.

Speaker 1: 1:34

Yeah, I know you're used to.

Speaker 2: 1:35

Just like speaking into the vicinity of your laptop, but it's got to be pretty close, so go ahead and talk into it and see what it sounds like okay, I gotta have it close to me, because I was trying to like sit up here in bed yeah, like I said, imagine you're giving a blowjob to like a huge dick where you got to wrap both hands of it around it, and then like that's about how far away from you.

Speaker 2: 2:00

Well, no, I know it's funny, but that's about how far away it needs to be from your face, to kind of get it, get a reasonable sound out of that thing.

Speaker 1: 2:10

Yes, yep.

Speaker 3: 2:17

I am still choking on lasagna.

Speaker 2: 2:19

I'm sorry. Well, better lasagna than other things that you double fist.

Speaker 1: 2:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:26

So, again, it's got to be, it's got to be angled towards your face.

Speaker 1: 2:29

I mean no part of the deck is going to break off and get stuck in my lungs.

Speaker 3: 2:33

Yeah, that is a good point, and if that were to happen, I would say go see a doctor immediately. Yeah, cause that's not normal.

Speaker 2: 2:42

No.

Speaker 1: 2:43

Both of the people should go to the doctor. Yeah, because that's not normal. No, both of the people should go to the doctor. Wow, all right, I'm serious.

Speaker 2: 2:49

It's going in the podcast. I hope you know that. One, two, three, four, hey, this is D-Night, this is.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Carol, this is Ty.

Speaker 2: 2:58

Listening to the part of the Insurrection podcast where you wouldn't believe it. But after what seems to be an eternity, we finally got Ty a microphone. She's coughing into it as we speak.

Speaker 1: 3:11

I put the view. I put the view yeah, she finally got a microphone and I was about to be super impressed because I thought, wow, that has really good like ambient sound suppression. We can't even hear her coughing directly into it.

Speaker 2: 3:24

Yeah, I think that's some of the Zoom settings.

Speaker 1: 3:27

Yeah, but this has more to do with Ty's reflexes and hitting that mute button. Good job.

Speaker 2: 3:33

That might potentially be it.

Speaker 3: 3:34

I've been reflexing a lot the past few days, that's for sure.

Speaker 2: 3:39

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Speaker 1: 3:49

What's up, brother?

Speaker 2: 3:51

I don't think this is the way that he would prefer us sell his sheets, uh. But yes, if you're engaged in any activity that would involve, uh, having a a very fast set of reflexes in order to create some physically pleasurable situations.

Speaker 3: 4:10

Well, a gag reflex. Anyway, Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 4:12

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Speaker 3: 4:34

I actually like that. That's so like that, giving um. Like what's his name?

Speaker 2: 4:38

barry white vibes carol uh well, she's like the total opposite of barry white. Barry white is like a super, not even a baritone, but like a bass, and carol's got this, like you know, high opposite of larry.

Speaker 1: 4:53

Would the opposite be like larry black?

Speaker 2: 4:57

that's my name, mary, I'm so opposite of I see what you did there, but no, you got like a high alto thing going on. Just, you're definitely not remotely close to Barry White, but anyway of course, but it's very soothing.

Speaker 3: 5:13

It's very soothing though it is, I like it. I love Carol's voice.

Speaker 2: 5:17

Okay, well, that's yes, I agree wholeheartedly there. She's a delightful, delightful presence, vocally and otherwise. But yeah, so on to the news. I don't know how we got off on that, we'll just. The saga of ty's microphone is now complete. I can't tell you guys how many times I've tried to send her a microphone, but we finally managed to get the job done.

Speaker 2: 5:38

It only only took this long. As you can tell, we're totally unprofessional in every single endeavor. But again back to news. So it was a crazy day today. You know, trump's pump and dump scheme, truth social, went public today with wall street signing it evaluation at its peak of $14 billion. Surprising that, given the revenue the company is making is around $3 dollars a year and it is regularly losing money. Um, so yeah that is inside.

Speaker 3: 6:11

That is crazy billion dollars yeah, for it's.

Speaker 2: 6:17

It's it just absolutely bananas that that company is worth that amount of money. Considering what? So we just had an initial public offering a few weeks ago Was it a Reddit? And they're only worth a handful of billion dollars, even though they're making, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue a year. Typically, when these companies go public, their valuations tend to be low multiples of their yearly revenue maybe three, four, five, x at most. And this thing's making $3 million a year and it's supposed to be worth $14 billion. This has fraud written all over it. It's got fraud written all over it.

Speaker 3: 7:03

Yeah Right, yeah over, yeah right yeah, yes, well, two years ago, like when it was like the merger was first announced and they were all like excited and stuff. So, um, digital world came under like a lot of scrutiny and the sec was looking into the finances and what kind of shenanigans they were going on, because, you remember, they couldn't even keep their offices open. They were like we showed up to work and this shit was like doorknob dead, like there was no like a building, the furniture was carted off.

Speaker 2: 7:31

Yeah, you know, it was real funny about that. The offices are still like that because I put a picture, put pictures up on the Twitter about how, like you know, now that it's public, you know, make sure you take a visit down to Sarasota where their offices are located, because it has all the hallmarks of a multi-billion dollar company, like empty hallways and no employees.

Speaker 3: 7:55

Yeah, it's incredible no employees, no equipment.

Speaker 2: 7:58

Nothing like that. But, yeah, like you were saying, so it's been marred by scandal and investigations to this point. It had to settle a multimillion dollar fine because of, basically, the SPACs not supposed to be communicating with the company that it intends to purchase before announcing it publicly. They were engaged in that. There was also a potential lawsuit between the initial investors who helped build the website you know Trump's, I guess, in this case co-conspirators, because I'm sure this thing is entirely fraudulent, because it appeared as though he had a scheme to to like, basically water down the amount of their shares so he would have a higher percentage of the controlling interest in the company.

Speaker 2: 8:52

But I guess they worked that out somehow in court over the last couple of weeks. Yeah, this thing and I talked about this on the pocket part and I did a few days ago where jeffrey yass, uh, he's, he's got a huge share in bite dance, which controls tiktok, and it would be. I mean, it's just fairly convenient that, um, he went down to meet trump at mar-a-lago, as trump has long held the stance of banning TikTok and soon as he hangs out with this guy, he changes his tune on that which would be of significant financial importance to Yas. But also Yas' company has a large share of the investment, or had a large share of the investment, into the SPAC that merged with the truth social parent company. So he's got a controlling well, not a controlling, but he's significantly single-handedly responsible for inflating the value of these shares, which is just fucking insane. It's insane, just just bananas.

Speaker 1: 10:03

Yeah, I don't even know what we're talking about and I'm sick of it.

Speaker 2: 10:08

That's okay, carol. He's this mysterious billionaire who basically built his fortune off getting in early on TikTok oh that.

Speaker 1: 10:20

Yeah, we've moved on to social networks different things.

Speaker 2: 10:25

But yeah, it's okay, you can, you know, make sure you tune in to one of the previous episodes of part of the insurrection where I talked about that. That'll keep you thoroughly informed. But yeah, it's just, it's wild man Like. This. Thing's not going to last long, I would imagine, unless foreign money keeps pouring in to keep the sheriff price afloat. Uh, to keep the sheriff price afloat, like I'm sure it's gonna nosedive soon and trump will try and get his money out and if he can't, you know this, this thing won't result in a large payoff.

Speaker 3: 10:56

But but the thing is is that if truth social really was that deal, like when it was announced, twitter has 200 and something million followers, then all these motherfuckers that love to go on Twitter and you know MAGA, maga, maga, maga these motherfuckers aren't posting on there because they're all on Twitter X-chan, like they're not over on Truth Social. So it's like what they have like 3 million users, 3 to 5 million users, like, give me a fucking break Per month, supposedly.

Speaker 2: 11:32

Now who knows how authentic those users are like I don't know if anyone's actually done a real audit, but again, now that this thing has gone public, is going to face a lot of scrutiny which again I will can only assume will lead to the downfall of the stock price, um, and a couple other things. Like you know, everyone's expecting trump to try and get a massive payout in the short term from selling off his shares, but obviously I guess it's been reported very thoroughly. I don't know how obvious it is necessarily, but there's like this lockup clause where he can't sell any shares for six months from today, but-.

Speaker 1: 12:10

Question will they accept shares as bonds for six months from today? But Question will they?

Speaker 2: 12:15

accept shares as bonds? Yeah, so he can't sell any shares, he can't use the shares as collateral and he can't get loans against the share. So but oh dear. Yeah, but so here's the, here's the potential. Hang up you might appeal.

Speaker 2: 12:42

Well, he can. He can request that the board grant him an exception to the to the lockup clause and they could vote. Have a hold of the fact that he would be intending to sell a massive number of his shares would probably trigger to other investors to pull their money out, which would take a significant hit, and he would end up giving getting far less cash than than what his shares are currently worth.

Speaker 2: 13:19

I mean, it's just one of the hang ups with this and I mean, and I and I guess, like if they did that they would probably open themselves up to a shareholder lawsuit as well, which, of course, would like open themselves up to a shareholder lawsuit as well, which, of course, would like open them, like just the fact that they would be under investigation at that point just not a good idea. But I mean, I I suppose they'd be willing to try it. If he's that desperate, who knows?

Speaker 3: 13:40

well, that's what happened with elmo, you know, like, when he was sued, and then also like he was sued by, I want to say, was the orlando I know it was out of flor, but it was a police fund and they were saying like how he was out here trying to manipulate the stock prices and then their shares, their, the value of their shares, you know like went down and this is their pension. You know what I'm saying. So, um, and putting wrapping that into the court case where he was trying to get that cool $50 billion check, and they were like no, hold up, wait a minute. And he lost and he had his little meltdown over that. But it's the same type of fuckery, it's the same type.

Speaker 2: 14:25

Yeah, it's exactly that. Yeah, it's exactly that. And a number of individuals on the true social are engaged in like hyping up the stock price and getting people to try and pump their money into it. Again, it's classic pump and dump. Just, you know. Google that and then take a look at the situation surrounding this true social thing and you'll quickly come to the conclusion that this is yet another get rich quick scheme. You'll quickly come to the conclusion that this is yet another get rich quick scheme, Like and it's it is actually not very dissimilar from this this Trump phone the Trump was trying to sell back in the day, where he proclaimed it would have all these features.

Speaker 2: 15:02

It was like a modern smartphone, but before smartphones, really, Um, and then didn't really do any of that shit like some kind of video phone service. And it didn't really do any of that shit like some kind of video phone service and it didn't really do any of that. And it launched with like a 34 million dollar valuation and eventually went bankrupt before, like, after he sucked the money out of his fucking crazy carol. What you doing reading? What are you reading?

Speaker 1: 15:28

article I'm reading about the birth abortion pill case. Is that not?

Speaker 2: 15:34

one of our topics. We can make it one of those topics. So you continue reading, and when you're ready to inform us of your opinions on that subject, we'll let you get right to it, okay, yes, I will participate in your conversation. You say I just like watching ty talking to that mic. She's doing such a good job.

Speaker 2: 16:01

Yeah, put it in your face, ty, okay I'm sorry so the new york of Appeals issued an order Issued an order earlier this week reducing Trump's bond requirements from over four hundred and sixty four million dollars in the civil fraud case there to a mere one hundred and seventy five million dollars to a mere $175 million, also staying enforcement of the judgment against him for 10 days, giving him time to post the bond. This is the luckiest motherfucker on planet earth.

Speaker 3: 16:39

I've never seen serious bullshit.

Speaker 2: 16:40

It's some bullshit for real and the way I heard it is because a number of people have described it. You know, like when you get the speeding ticket for 55 bucks and it's like it's getting closer and closer to the date, it's like, all right, it's the date. You can't just go to the court and be like I don't have the money. Well, no, it's not, they're not going to like. Be like, all right, well, we'll reduce the fine to thirty five dollars, don't that bitch is going up to two fifty.

Speaker 3: 17:04

Right, exactly, exactly. Well, we're going to give you time to pay, but it's going to cost you.

Speaker 3: 17:11

Right, that's what it is, you know, like that's what it is Like if you, if I, go to my rent office and say man, I'm not going to have the rent on the first, that's OK, we're not going to start evicting procedures until here. But then I'm charging, I'm racking up fifty dollars a day and fucking late fees like I'm not getting no break. Well, you know what? How much can you pay? Yeah, we're gonna reduce your rent by five hundred dollars this month yeah, that's not a thing.

Speaker 2: 17:32

He's the only dude getting breaks like this is incredible. I've never seen anything like it sitting.

Speaker 2: 17:36

That can't pass, that can't fucking post a fucking two hundred dollar bond because they got caught with a fucking dying bag of weed yeah, judges ain't out here giving these dudes no breaks, and the fact that they didn't, like actually post an explanation as to how they came to the conclude their conclusion is just insane to me.

Speaker 2: 17:55

I mean, of course, like they have that discretion, they can just do whatever they want, whatever the hell they want, they can just issue whatever order they feel like, but just that they couldn't offer any explanation, and then it happened at the last second. It's just wild to me, and this and the fact that he's, like, been lying to the court constantly as well as lying to the public, just makes it all the more insane that they decided to try and get this dude to break. Now. They stayed um, all, basically, um, every part of judging gorn's ruling against trump and the trump organization, except for the parts where, you know, court appointed monitor, barbara Jones, her oversight of the Trump organization and the installation of, basically, a compliance officer. Those two things remain intact, which I can only assume means that, even though the court gave him a break, that don't mean they trust his ass Right.

Speaker 3: 18:55

True, but you know yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:57

I don't know.

Speaker 3: 18:58

It's. And then you know, and I've seen, you know multiple sides of the argument and where people are not defending it, but they're like he still owes the judgment, like that doesn't change anything.

Speaker 2: 19:10

No, they just reduced the bond and gave him a stay. On the other things, like not being able to be officers of any company registered in New York and not being able to loan, will engage in business with any financial institutions registered in New York, et cetera et cetera.

Speaker 2: 19:28

Yeah, it's just wild man like this. I've never seen anybody like just if not be lucky, just get so many opportunities where he gets the benefit of the doubt. It's insane. I and I just like like for a dude who tried to kill as many americans as possible with covet, then tried to overthrow the government and then stole a bunch of classified documents on his way out of office and also tried to hang his vice president, like.

Speaker 1: 19:55

I never seen Also tried to sell those documents, don't forget, yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:59

Like we don't have conclusive proof that he tried to sell them, but he did share information that was contained within. But yeah, that dude that he continues to get the benefit of the doubt in every way in the legal system is fucking insane. It's just bananas, man. I just I don't understand. And just again, he spent all weekend lying in multiple ways saying that he both had the money, but also that it would be impossible to come up with the bond. It's fucking crazy. Possible to come up with the bond. It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2: 20:32

And and he's also been saying, since the judge handed well, the appeals court handed down this ruling uh, that the bond he would be secure. Well, that he would be using cash to secure the bond. And I don't know what that's about, whether or not he actually has the cash. But he's also been saying, like he's been implying, that because he's going to put up cash for the bond that he won't be able to spend on the on the 2024 election. I don't know how true that is, but I assume that that's kind of that's like a hint as to his campaign strategy. Oh, I had to spend all my money on this bond in New York. Will you bag of donors like give me all your money.

Speaker 1: 21:08

Sorry, I forgot for a second. That wasn't like a slur. And they like being called that, like imagining him, like, oh, he would never call them that. Oh right, yeah, that's their thing that's their thing.

Speaker 3: 21:19

But. But the thing is, I was, um, I was reading somewhere where they were saying that trump very well may have that cash, but he is so like hocked up to his eyeballs that that money is security, so he's like he can't spend it because that is him. Having that liquidity is contingent on his being lent money from the Deutsche banks and from the other um entities that have, um, you know, provided him with financing for things. So if he were to dip into that which is probably why, if he had all this money, then why is he spending tens of millions out of his pack to pay his legal fees, et cetera?

Speaker 2: 22:00

But yeah, so you're right to secure a lot of these loans, these massive loans for these real estate properties. I'm sure part of the loan agreement is that you have to have X amount of dollars in the bank above and beyond that threshold. He did just get a $100 million bond secured by Chubb and we don't know what he used as collateral and if he used the cash he has in his bank account for collateral.

Speaker 3: 22:34

Ivana knows. Ivana knows she's no longer with us.

Speaker 2: 22:38

But yeah, if he used the cash from his bank account to secure the bond in the EG and Carol case, well, he can't spend that either. So who knows where he's going to come up with the we don't even know like? Even though the bond's been reduced by fucking 70, we don't, we still don't know if he can come up with 175 million if he could have, he would have.

Speaker 3: 23:01

Today was a weekday, banks were open, so if he had that money he would have been down there. I bet he would have been down there with that cashier's check them, gold bars, whatever. Maybe he should have asked bob melendez well, since you know he likes to wait to the last minute like here's the thing right.

Speaker 2: 23:22

So he's been knowing for months now, before this trial even was underway, that he could potentially have to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars and he ain't started trying to line up some fucking money. Then he waited to the last fucking second and I was saying to get this again on another pocket pardon, like it. It is like that he knew that he would have to come up with this money and it was such a massive endeavor that he didn't get started months ago and waited till like the week the money was due. That is like God tier level procrastination.

Speaker 3: 23:52

You know, look, I got a bill for my electric company. They said on the 25th you owe us $140. It's like, okay, I knew, they let me know, I knew it was coming. Okay, now I just paid it last night.

Speaker 2: 24:07

But and I didn't pay the whole thing. In case you're listening to this, we're recording it all on the 25th, so last night was like literally 24 hours before.

Speaker 3: 24:17

And I didn't pay the whole thing. I gave like 60% Actually. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 24:21

Today is I can't look. I've I've been memory hold. It's today. I can't look. I've been memory hold. Today is the 26th. It's been that kind of week.

Speaker 3: 24:27

She literally paid it on the day of it be like that sometimes, but yeah, but so, so you know he, he really he knew it was coming, but at the same time, he lives for the drama. He lives for the drama. Are you lives for the drama? Are you saying like not?

Speaker 2: 24:49

knowing how to that he, whether or not he can come up with the money, and waiting until the last possible second it's a fucking rush for him. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3: 24:57

Just, but being the martyr. So then he, he loves to play this game and I think that he wants to them reducing that bond amount it played right into his hands because he is a narcissist and he wants to know how much leeway he can get. He pushes this all the time and he's that person and I, you know, it's like you know what?

Speaker 3: 25:22

I got that 140, but you ain't gonna get it right yeah, I'm gonna give you 80, I'm gonna give you 80 and we're gonna see where we are. Right now, like that's the kind of game that he wants to play. Even if he had it liquid, that he didn't owe anybody, I still don't think he would have done it, because he loves to see what he can get people to cave into, to give into. That's part of the game for him. It's all a game he plays with people. That feeds into his ego of like, oh yeah, I got them to reduce this 300 something million dollars and in that end he was fucking right and they played right into it. They played right into it. They played right into it had they not done that. But since they did, now he's like all righty, I see what I'm working with here. So now he's going to push it even more.

Speaker 2: 26:17

Yeah, this is his classic shell game Run up the bill, cry broke, get them and then, like you know, escape for pennies on the dollars. This is his classic game and he ran a game on appeals court and they fell for it and you know clearly they should have just held him fucking accountable. They should have told him the line and told him if you don't come up with the money, he's going to lose his shit and clearly they've never read Tristan Snell's book. They've never read Tristan Snell's book.

Speaker 2: 26:53

You know he's one of the prosecutors who held Trump responsible for the Trump University yeah, the Trump University fraudulent fiasco. And it's basically his book is basically about how you have to use every available tactic to like clamp off Trump, like close off all his, because he's like a fucking cockroach, like if you don't like cut off every escape route, he's going to find a way to wiggle out and run into a corner and he'll survive. So you got to like cut off all the exits and then you got to like spray him down with the bug spray and you got to stomp him out and you got to sweep him up and throw him out.

Speaker 3: 27:26

You gotta turn on the lights, you gotta spray him, you gotta watch his little ass running around, even though he's all wet and shit and soaked, but he's still trying, but he can't go anywhere. Yep and he's seen like that's it.

Speaker 2: 27:37

Yes, tristan Stel's book is like the legal version of that entire process, so make sure you go check that out. It's extremely informative and entertaining to some degree. So, taking down Trump, make sure you pick up a copy of that. It's really good. So, after a short delay due to document production at the last second from the Southern District of New York and their DOJ office there, judge Marchand finally sets Trump in his election interference hush money trial for April 15th, about three weeks from today, and eventually ended up issuing a gag order against Trump in that case.

Speaker 1: 28:24

I'm sure he'll abide by that, as he always does.

Speaker 3: 28:28

Well, you know he's nothing if not a law-abiding citizen. Carol.

Speaker 1: 28:33

He's just gagging on anything left or right.

Speaker 2: 28:40

Is this an allusion to our reflex conversation from?

Speaker 1: 28:44

earlier Allusions, but no so to our reflex conversation from earlier but no.

Speaker 2: 28:50

So, um, this case was actually set to begin yesterday, or at least jury selection was, and then it ended up having a a potential mishap by the fact that doj issued a massive tranche of documents at the last minute and presumably offering Trump the opportunity to request a delay in this trial. But the judge, after further investigation, found that it was largely the result of Trump's ineptitude or I guess you could say it was purposeful that he waited to the last minute to try and subpoena DOJ for additional information, like weeks before, a month or two before the trial began, and then, after the document production, claim that it was somehow DOJ's fault, and a lot of you guys were probably up in arms like, oh, yet another delay there, they're rigging it for Trump and it really turns out it was Trump's fault. Like the DOJ was to blame for this. They apparently didn't come into the possession of these documents until a few months ago, not long after Trump Well, not long before Trump sent the subpoena, and obviously Bragg's office wasn't responsible for this. They had asked for any responsive documents DOJ had a year ago and DOJ gave them everything they had and also these documents largely irrelevant to the case.

Speaker 2: 30:16

So, like everyone who was like pitching a fit about the potential delay, like it only ended up being a couple weeks. We're back on track, like it only ended up being a couple of weeks. We're back on track Like it's OK to like take a second when these things happen and assess the potential fallout, but not get like so up in arms and ready to blame the prosecutors or saying that things are rigged. Like it turns out, it's largely Trump's fault and that the judge wasn't going for this shit. And the trial is on and we're likely going to end with Trump being a convicted felon in the near future, long before he ever even gets to the election. And that goes to the people who were like poo-pooing Alvin Bragg bringing this case in the first place, saying oh, that's not even that serious, why did he charge Trump? And now, like, all of trump's other criminal trials are up in the air.

Speaker 2: 31:07

We don't know if they'll conclude or if they'll even begin before the election and turns out this is the one that's gonna go first.

Speaker 3: 31:14

Yeah, yeah, I was saying, I was thinking about that like a couple of weeks ago I was just smiling about carol I'm listening to you guys you can also contribute

Speaker 2: 31:23

that's an option know You're not an audience member. I know You're a host.

Speaker 3: 31:29

I thought Carol was painting her nails. She was looking down. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Oh, I don't know what she's doing. She's probably just reading. No, I was looking at my phone.

Speaker 2: 31:35

Yeah, oh, okay, I'm just giving you a hard time.

Speaker 3: 31:48

All right, sorry, ty, remember when this case first came and you know it came down and everybody was like oh, there's way more serious stuff. This case isn't the one now. This just kind of seemed for you know they were pooh-poohing, dismissing it like this was just some kind of like bs case.

Speaker 2: 31:56

It was like how dare he be the first person to indict a former president of the united states. This is a clown show, it's a fucking ridiculous and like there's all this other shit, and then it turns out. Now you're like, oh, thank God for Alvin Bragg.

Speaker 3: 32:10

Thank God for Alvin Bragg. Thank God this is proceeding, because this might be the only accountability we see before we're pogromed. So this is where we are. You know he's not going to win.

Speaker 2: 32:24

Well, yes, we're hoping he's not going to win. Well, yes, we're hoping.

Speaker 3: 32:28

He's not going to win, carol, but I'm not really worried about Whether or not he's going to win. I'm worried about all the fuckery that the GOP and their right wing handlers Are doing between now.

Speaker 2: 32:40

And.

Speaker 3: 32:40

November To ensure that.

Speaker 1: 32:43

Nobody wins Getting forced out of the, out of the, out of the House and Senate, and and retiring and seating seat after seat in the House.

Speaker 2: 32:55

Yeah, okay, so two points there. Obviously, it appears as though they have no actual plan to get more votes than Joe Biden in November. So, yes, I'm not worried about that. That is what's frightening, though. That is what's frightening, though. Exactly that's what's frightening.

Speaker 3: 33:11

Is that they are behaving like they don't need the votes, and that is something that Trump has said, and no the MSM legacy media.

Speaker 2: 33:19

You're mic-tied.

Speaker 3: 33:21

MSM, mainstream media they do not hone in on that. When he said you don't have to go out to vote, we don't need your votes, and they are out here talking like it's in the bag, that should be more frightening than that thought, because that makes me wonder what the fuck are they up to right?

Speaker 1: 33:38

unless they control the military, it doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 2: 33:41

Well, we already know the military.

Speaker 1: 33:43

I mean no, they have fox news in the bases, but like well.

Speaker 2: 33:46

Well, unfortunately they could, and I don't want to give them any ideas, but enough of these red states could potentially get together and use their National Guard towards some untoward, for some untoward purposes, exactly. President Biden has the option of nationalizing the, federalizing the National Guard, rather, but again, it's like that is contingent on on these people actually following legitimate, lawful orders, and you can't count on that, and just who knows what the fuck can happen. But yes, I have no idea what their plan is, considering like winning the election. Ain't ain't ain't one of them, ain't ain't ain't one of them. Um, yeah, but yeah. And the other thing is, should trump eventually end up going on trial before the election in the dc case, he's likely going to be a convicted felon, which will come along with, like some enhancements as far as his potential sentence goes. So that you know the fact that he's going to be a convicted felon or at least in all likelihood, given the facts of the case in New York, it means that he could actually, for real, for real, see some jail time.