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March 28, 2024 Pardon The Insurrection Episode 168
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Mar 28, 2024 Episode 168
Pardon The Insurrection

Imagine a media giant welcoming an RNC Chairwoman with open arms—only for the move to backfire spectacularly. That's precisely what happened when NBC enlisted Ronna Romney McDaniel, a decision we scrutinize in this episode, unraveling its implications for the network and the message it conveys to viewers. From dissecting McDaniel's controversial tenure to the network's juggle with its own integrity, we peel back the layers of this media scandal and ponder the larger narrative it feeds into—a narrative where political figures associated with insurrection are granted influential platforms.

But our gaze doesn't stop at the U.S. border. We roam the globe, examining political scandals and the latest investigations, including former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro's alleged coup connection and escape attempts. We also stop in Budapest to watch peaceful protestors rally against Viktor Orban—a leader oddly praised by some American media figures. And then, we pivot to the curious whispers of an FBI or DHS investigation involving none other than Diddy. It's a whirlwind tour of political drama and the consequential ripple effects felt around the world.

Bringing it back home, we grapple with the thorny issues of crumbling infrastructure underscored by a tragic bridge collapse in Baltimore and the Supreme Court's dance around Texas's controversial immigration policy. We voice our frustrations and fears over the stark reality of America's decaying foundations while confronting the rampant misinformation that obstructs vital progress. This episode isn't just a collection of stories; it's a call to action—a sobering reminder that beyond the headlines lies a deep-seated need for change, collaboration, and a steadfast commitment to rebuilding, not just our structures, but our collective future.

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Imagine a media giant welcoming an RNC Chairwoman with open arms—only for the move to backfire spectacularly. That's precisely what happened when NBC enlisted Ronna Romney McDaniel, a decision we scrutinize in this episode, unraveling its implications for the network and the message it conveys to viewers. From dissecting McDaniel's controversial tenure to the network's juggle with its own integrity, we peel back the layers of this media scandal and ponder the larger narrative it feeds into—a narrative where political figures associated with insurrection are granted influential platforms.

But our gaze doesn't stop at the U.S. border. We roam the globe, examining political scandals and the latest investigations, including former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro's alleged coup connection and escape attempts. We also stop in Budapest to watch peaceful protestors rally against Viktor Orban—a leader oddly praised by some American media figures. And then, we pivot to the curious whispers of an FBI or DHS investigation involving none other than Diddy. It's a whirlwind tour of political drama and the consequential ripple effects felt around the world.

Bringing it back home, we grapple with the thorny issues of crumbling infrastructure underscored by a tragic bridge collapse in Baltimore and the Supreme Court's dance around Texas's controversial immigration policy. We voice our frustrations and fears over the stark reality of America's decaying foundations while confronting the rampant misinformation that obstructs vital progress. This episode isn't just a collection of stories; it's a call to action—a sobering reminder that beyond the headlines lies a deep-seated need for change, collaboration, and a steadfast commitment to rebuilding, not just our structures, but our collective future.

Support the Show.

Support the show:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2003879/support

Follow our show's hosts on
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twitter.com/@CoolTXchick
twitter.com/@Caroldedwine
twitter.com/taradublinrocks
twitter.com/blackknight10k
twitter.com/@pardonpod

Find Tara's book here:
Taradublinrocks.com

Find Ty's book here:
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Speaker 1:

one, two, three, four. So nbc hired ronald robney mcdaniel last week to be a paid contributor on their network to the tune of 300, or rather 300 000 a year, causing immediate fallout of the network, resulting in outrage by both the public as well as the network host themselves, and that was eventually resulted in her being pulled from MSNBC, ultimately being removed from NBC altogether.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was man. They were on fire. Joy Reid fucking Maddow.

Speaker 1:

No, I was trying to wave to Carol.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought you, you can hang out with us too.

Speaker 1:

We're more fun than your phone. Aren't you interested in shitting? Aren't you interested in shitting on? Aren't you interested in shitting on rana mcdaniel, by any chance that's 300 000.

Speaker 2:

What about a lot of flowers? She's probably disappointed because she lost her flower budget.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, it's just insane, like. For those of you that aren't aware, obviously rana mcdaniel was the the rnc chairwoman for the past few years here and she's actually largely responsible, or at least while on her watch, republicans lost the presidential election, they lost the senate, they underperformed in the house in 2022 and they are set to have. Well, they currently entered uh the month with with fewer dollars on hand at the rnc than nikki haley oh yes, she still keeps racking up votes, haley, and not even on the ballot.

Speaker 1:

That shit is funny no, but uh, I think, most importantly and it's not just that, she's like a liar and a con and a fraud and this is not Nikki Haley they were referring to, although I guess like that's an accurate description of her as well but Ronna Romney McDaniel here it's not that she's just a terrible person and a piece of shit and a liar and a fraud and a sellout. She's willing to sell out her family name all because Trump doesn't like her uncle. Like, most importantly, she's a fucking insurrectionist. Like she's practically a co-conspirator in the fake elector plot that ended up leading to a coup. You know where our Capitol was under attack. Like she's a conspirator in that.

Speaker 2:

And the fact that MSNBC decided that they wanted to invest a significant portion of a significant amount of funds in like putting money in her pocket to be a fucking clown show on their network how fucking embarrassing is it for that network to treat their audience like shit by putting this person and their and their anchors and the people that come on as commentators, like kurt bardella someone had made that point was, I think I was listening to, I think it was the bulwark today with, uh, tim millard, but you know, and they were saying that the left-wing people of color that go on there and commentate, they don't get anything.

Speaker 1:

Oh, they never get paid.

Speaker 2:

They don't get paid at all.

Speaker 1:

They never get paid commentary deals.

Speaker 2:

They're being made to feel like, you know, they should just be fucking grateful to NASA for having them on, you know, or whatever, and they're going to platform this woman. They're going to platform this woman. And it wasn't just that, but what the head of NBC was like on her memo, in her memo was saying that, oh, this is such an important voice and this, and I'm like, but the voice of fucking sedition, like what the fuck does that mean, you know? And then she's like oh, you know, being from Michigan, she's going to be so great to commentate um, um, in this, uh, key battleground state. And I'm like those words, those sentences, that says everything about their fucking intent.

Speaker 2:

yeah, because, like you don't have anybody else from michigan, like there ain't no motherfucking other republican she could potentially be indicted in michigan for all we fucking know.

Speaker 1:

And you're gonna put her on the fucking air and risk your credibility like this and it's just, it's disrespectful, like you said, to the host. It's disrespectful to the audience, it's disrespectful to everyone, like you said, who contributes there Unpaid, gives their time and efforts. It's disrespectful to the journalists that they let go, like their print journalist that they fired a few weeks ago, who were unionized and it's probably an illegal fire, like that money could have went to them and that they did this is just absurd and and it's just like, and it's not just that, it's not even just that she's a liar, because a lot of people lie and then still get the opportunity to come on msnbc. It's that like know she's been engaged in issuing, just like saying all kinds of horrendous things about MSNBC employees.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, but not only just that. She was actively engaged in fucking insurrection, like actively engaged in active and willing participants. It's crazy, ty, and it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Imagine a world where we go back to world war ii and then, like the united states, decides that they're gonna let gerbils host fireside chats.

Speaker 2:

It's fucking insane like it's fucking, it's fucking ridiculous. And I'm very, very glad, because at first I was wondering when, when I had made, uh, my post, um, and then somebody had mentioned, I was like okay, we'll know what's going on come monday when maddo gets on, and she killed it. So I was like very, very happy, uh, happy about that, and even like fucking, you know, chuck todd, I do think, do think that he gave Kristen Walker where he was like oh, you were putting an impossible position. Maybe she was, but she could have met that moment and she could have pushed back more than she did and she didn't. So I'm not giving her that.

Speaker 1:

Not only did she pull a Chris, a Chuck Todd and let Welker basically get on TV and live for 30 minutes, Like she should have just never had her on the show, but I mean we all know, we know who Kristen Welker or she, should have said I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's obviously, but she didn't. But like obviously, again, we know who Kristen Welker is voting for in November.

Speaker 2:

You know, exactly, exactly. Because we can say whatever we want and he can say whatever he wants. Oh, you've been put in a horrible position with Ronna whatever. But he has neglected to mention all the motherfuck ass interviews that she's given, where she has allowed people to fucking spread lies, propaganda, gaslight, bullshit, without pushing back and even like fucking pandering to them. So don't?

Speaker 1:

her introduction to msnbc audience was having trump on there in a pre-recorded hour-long rehabilitation propaganda tour. Yeah, it's insane. Like I don't know what they were thinking. And this is not to say like, if you're listening to this, like we're not suggesting, uh, that msnbc needs to become fox news of the left, where it exists solely as a propaganda outlet for the left. That's not what we're saying. What we're saying is like, if you intend to present yourself as this liberal leaning outlet with with journalistic integrity, the last thing you can do is put an insurrectionist on your payroll not even liberal leaning, I mean, while they do have you know as far as their nighttime anchors go oh, we ain't gotta talk about it.

Speaker 1:

They got a whole bunch of former fucking Republicans hosting these shows, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Nicole Wallace, for one you know, and her history like going, you know.

Speaker 1:

Who y'all think Joe and Mika voted for in 2008? I bet it wasn't a black dude. No, that's true. That is true, carol. You look so defeated, are you okay?

Speaker 2:

You're dope. Are you tired? Are you tired, I'm sorry, donut.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm sorry. We're keeping you up all night. We're wearing you out. We'll try and let you get some rest here soon. Luckily for us, carol Ty hasn't consumed copious amounts of alcohol, so she's all's all over today. Fantastic performance by you this evening, ty, uh so, and we're just like endlessly discussing with msnbc. But we we got to move on in the interest of time here yes um, and we'll get back to msc mbc on another episode.

Speaker 1:

I've got, I've got more concerns about that, but again in the interest of time, um. So brazil's federal police launched an investigation into former president jair bolsonaro after a two-night sleepover at the hungarian embassy I did not hear about this, oh damn yeah, and what appeared to be an attempt to potentially use, uh, hungary to avoid an arrest. Um, I worded it that way because it's funny what's being arrested for now well, you know, uh, so the united states wasn't the only country to.

Speaker 1:

Uh, so the United States wasn't the only country. Toth is a guest of Trump's White House, so you can connect the dots there. So there was also a potential well, a failed coup stage by Bolsonaro supporters in Brazil. They've gone to far more efforts to hold him responsible than we've managed to do so here. Of course, trump is now currently indicted, but, yes, it appears as though Bolsonaro was trying to pull an Assange and hide out at the embassy here, hoping to avoid arrest. So now he's being investigated for that and could potentially face more charges for that, and could potentially face more charges. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to like the way Brazil's law enforcement works. They're doing a better job of holding their insurrectionists accountable than we are.

Speaker 2:

They arrested them, motherfuckers, immediately.

Speaker 1:

Immediately On the spot. They was like y'all motherfuckers ain't leaving.

Speaker 2:

No, on site. Site for real. They were not having it, they were not having it. So, yeah they. They nipped that shit in the bud real quick but, yeah, it's just it's incredible, I mean, it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's funny, but not funny. The dude is like trying to figure out how he's going to escape these criminal charges and what he came up with is I'm a hot out in the embassy. It's hilarious, you know. And they eventually ended up confiscating his Well. So I think the judge in his case ordered the confiscation of his passport to prevent him from leaving the company, the company, the country, and that's how he made the decision that he was going to try and hide out in the embassy. But apparently that arrangement didn't work out and he ended up having to. I don't know. I don't know if he was forced out of the embassy or he left of his own volition. Who the fuck knows exactly what's going on down there? But I just wanted to point out that, like we should be in a situation where Trump is trying to hide from law enforcement, he's trying to find an embassy to escape to like why are they doing a better job of trying to hold this motherfucker accountable than we are? It's absolutely insane. Just every day makes me lose my mind.

Speaker 2:

My brain is broken and then it breaks some more when I think that it's broken to the point of no more breaking. It's just insanity on a level basis, and I'm waiting for ashton kutcher to like fucking jump out of a van and tell me that you know, the shit was just a whole big fucking gag, but yeah, not happening um, also, and this is semi-breaking news as of today, there's like massive demonstrations in budapest, that is, in Hungary, demanding the resignation or removal of Viktor Orban from office.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's not like it's not violent, it's a non-violent protest. They're not like storming the presidential palace or anything like that, but they are absolutely not happy about that. And in the fact that it's like such a gigantic protest, it doesn't look like it's going to go well for for Orban. And I think my commentary on the Twitter about this subject was was Tucker Carlson, heyucker carlson, your boyfriend in trouble, girl?

Speaker 2:

you know, I didn't know like I was reading that um, I was like, why does he stand so much for his?

Speaker 1:

dad worked for him yeah, runs in the family, yeah, uh pretty much, yeah, it's been okay you know, a long, long relationship between the, the car, the Carlson family and the Orban family, but anyway. So moving on in the subject, I'm sure all of you listening couldn't wait for us to get to the one of the most important developments in the news landscape here.

Speaker 1:

So it appears as though Diddy, also known as Puff Daddy had his New York and Florida homes raided by the FBI or DHS Department of Homeland Security in what appears to be a sex trafficking investigation. I'm just kidding guys, we're not talking about that on this podcast. That is not that's not the subject matter that we cover here.

Speaker 1:

Neither was Orban, so uh no, but I mean it was kind of funny. So I don't know how many of you keep up with like, uh, you know, pop culture, uh, the music landscape and whatnot. But there has been like this, this ongoing saga with uh, ditty sexual proclivities and allegations of like sex trafficking and like sex cult level shit, like r kelly type stuff, and apparently a number of people testified in some kind of civil suit and the feds had an ongoing investigation they don't do a raid on a suspicion no, I'm pretty sure that at this point the raid resulted in the arrest of Diddy's sons.

Speaker 1:

It appears as though Diddy had some kind of, some kind of uh, a fair warning in advance of this activity and he didn't feel like telling his sons well, yeah, not only that, but he boarded a flight and left.

Speaker 2:

That's a trump that's a trump move oh, he's in uh cape verde, that's off the coast of Africa. It's a nice little island.

Speaker 3:

Oh, did he bring Ivanka? Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so Diddy left the country as his kids were getting rounded up and sent off to jail. I thought that was pretty fucking funny. But yeah, just like it was fucking hilarious, I think I said that, yeah, now that the feds have raided his house, he needs to hurry up and file to run for president.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, that's what you got to do it yeah, no labels I hear they're looking. They're looking for a candidate.

Speaker 1:

That's the only way you're gonna try. You can get out of jail, apparently, because if you're running for president, like the rule of law does, it no longer applies to you. But no moving, moving on. So a federal judge dismissed Elon Musk lawsuit against the center for countering digital hate, saying that the organization's reporting on the platform and its activities is, in fact, protected by free speech. Free speech warrior Elon Musk out here using his massive funds and to use the courts and abuse them in an attempt to silence the free speech of others. Pretty fucking ironic, huh indeed that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, I love this for him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love this for him.

Speaker 1:

Same makes him look like a huge pussy uh pussy ass bitch and we already knew he was a yes, he, we already knew he was a hypocrite. And like I don't mean pussy, uh, you know some. I do hate to use that word because, like it is indicative of what the typically the people who use it are engaged in some form of of misogyny. And while I really readily admit that is the fact, personally I love pussy, so in general, I guess you can consider me calling someone a pussy a compliment, so maybe I'll just remove that epithet from my vocabulary.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, so this particular lawsuit was about the CCDH and their report on how, since Elon taking over the platform, a number of ads from prominent companies were appearing next to the content of Nazi and pro-Hitler content. Yeah, nazi and pro hitler content, yeah, yeah, and he was. He was outraged about the reporting of that and filed a lawsuit uh, uh, about the report that they put out. They contained a lot of and and look, the thing was pretty fucking straightforward, right, and he was saying, like they use, uh, they manipulated the platform to achieve those results, and I think a number of us on the twitter, we were basically like we would search for Nazi and then we click on a post and then you scroll down a little bit and then boom, there's a fucking ad and then you just take a screenshot and then you could post the thing yourself. Like it was pretty fucking easy to find right, and this idea that, like people were manipulating the platform to achieve those results by using it.

Speaker 3:

Yes, Like people were manipulating the platform to achieve those results by using it yes, as if there's not like there's not 280 million people on the site every day this season, Right?

Speaker 1:

I mean like Well, he was saying, like you know, it's theoretically possible that, like, a handful of people could be in a situation where they see these ads next to you know untoward content, but, like the, the way you secure these marketing these, you know ad arrangements and marketing agreements with these companies, is that you ensure that them, you ensure them that there's no way that that shit could ever happen, absolutely no way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the fact that this is like easily replicatable, easily replicatable, replicable I don't know what happened to my english there uh, like it's just insane that he fucking tried to sue these people. It's like a it was a frivolous lawsuit. It was insane that he even tried to do this and even the judge himself said, he said specifically, and I can quote this this suit is quote so unabashedly and vociferously about one thing that there can be no mistaking that purpose. This case is about punishing the defendants for their speech and, like, it is rare for a judge to kick you in the fucking ass that hard. Oh, it's just, I just hate this dude. What he's done to the platform, like it's, it's, it's been a disaster, it's been unfortunate, it's forced, it's fractionized the social media space in such a way now that, like you know, tens of millions of people have moved on to other similar platforms.

Speaker 2:

But, like it is, it has weakened the potential for people to use their voices for good and just, in so many ways in a unified way, because and I think that too was the point it was like okay, she had master bond don, you had post spoutable blue sky and threads and and moving, but 20 on twitter we had a unified voice, and so our voices are still strong, and so he has looked for other ways to subvert that by by not just flooding us with trolls but wanting to remove the block button, wanting to do like these other little things, when he realized that he's literally on there on the, on the fucking app using his platform to boost Nazis.

Speaker 1:

I mean at least.

Speaker 2:

I mean. Zuckerberg is no motherfucking like, no hero to write home about. However, his ass isn't on fucking meta every goddamn five minutes replying retweeting nazis again, I mean he just he just lets them do their shit, but he's not actively engaged in it.

Speaker 2:

No, so for what it's worth that? That is a difference. Because elon is there and he comes up in my in the ads that I get. It's always the same my in the ads that I get. It's always the same right wing motherfucking ads that I get all the time. And then he shows up in my and I don't engage with him because I know he's a fucking snowflake and the shit that I would love to say. I'm like this could be the day I lose my account and I don't want that. So I got to just keep on scrolling by. But the shit that he amplifies and the shit that Elon says he is so goddamn dumb Like I don't know if it's the ketamine, the hubris, it's probably all of it wrapped into one All the good combination.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and his inflated sense of self-importance is just I, he fucking like, literally, I see red every fucking time. Like I have to stay away. If somebody posts something like I'd like okay, I'm not gonna read this, I don't want to read this, because if I read this, this shit's gonna, it's gonna, I'm gonna reach a boiling point. You know I'm to reach a boiling point. You know I'm going to reach a boiling point. Like I, I just, I just can't.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Look, we we could just do an entire hour long episode on Elon himself and it wouldn't be long enough to address all the fuckery that he's been engaged in from his purchase of the platform until now. It just it wouldn't be enough. We need, like there should be, a whole book dedicated to this fiasco. Carol, do you have a nominee for the Shithole of the Week Award by any chance?

Speaker 3:

Yes, no, I don't remember.

Speaker 2:

Then we're gonna spin the wheel, right we're gonna have to get the wheel, wheel of shitholes. There we go it doesn't.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to spin it that. You put it that way. Put on my elbow length gloves, and, and, and and spin that.

Speaker 1:

I was falling asleep and then I heard carol uh well, my nominee for the shithole of the week award is the sun, the, the british media outlet, for spending a couple of months here totally gaslighting the public about the state of affairs with the royal family as it pertains to kate middleton.

Speaker 1:

Not that I'm blaming kate middleton for anything, but like it was the son who put out this narrative that she was enduring an abdominal surgery and it wasn't cancer related. Well, it turns out it was actually fucking cancer related and then no one was telling the son, hey, we, we, we need you to solve the mystery. Whereas kate, like they put out photoshop images of kate middleton on her own and then when they got busted with that, they blamed they blamed a cancer patient. They were like saying, well, you know, kate has a photoshop hobby, haha. And then they put out fake video and more fake pictures and and just gaslight the public and like, if they're willing to go to this extent to lie to us about something that's so stupid, like there's absolutely no reason to not only like, just try and hide this, like they could have just been like, hey, can you respect kate's privacy, that they went out of their way to try a lot of people for no fucking reason kate was going to eventually make this public.

Speaker 3:

They're willing to lie about anything I mean, it really makes you wonder who's, uh, who's behind them. But not that hard. I have conspiracy theories about that too. That are anyway sure, but they're.

Speaker 2:

I will second your nomination, okay, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be the uh contrarian sotomayor, I'm gonna be the dissent and it's because so okay.

Speaker 2:

So I said and I'll tie this in together after I'm done with this statement but what I was saying about, you know, al jazeera fabricating that story about the idf raping, raping palestinian women at the shifa hospital, and it was up for like 24 hours, millions, I mean it was, of course, the fucking you know article read around the world, and then they just kind of quietly dirty, deleted and detracted, and then you had all of these pro-Palestinian people like going back and retracting and deleting, like spreading that, but then the head of Al Jazeera just saying like, oh, you know, it was in the heat of the moment, like that was his excuse.

Speaker 2:

So but for me, I mean Kate Middleton, I'm not going to say fuck her, but I'm going to say like, as far as the Royal family, they really don't have any sway or anything in regards to where we are right now, while our democracy hangs in the balance. However, where we are and what is going on in gaza, for al jazeera to put something out like that was far more detrimental, harmful and dangerous for the world as a whole. So maybe we can just tie fucking media motherfuckers together, people like the sun, people like al jazeera propagandizing, using their platforms to to form and push narratives that have that are just that, serve no purpose but to fuel fucking whatever and gaslight fucking everybody. So I nominate them both All right, it's two to one and then a half Two to one and a half shithole.

Speaker 2:

Al Jazeera gets the half shithole.

Speaker 1:

No, it is a dual shithole of the week award. The Sun, al Jazeera. You are hereby both awarded the shithole of the week award. I mean, for god's sakes, guys, do better. It's not that fucking difficult to just not outright lie to your audience like mistakes get made, it's totally fine. It happens all the time.

Speaker 3:

We're totally understandable, just unless you did it on purpose which I sort of think you did it on purpose, which I sort of think you did, in which case fuck you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, All perfectly said donut.

Speaker 1:

All right, Carol. Closing thoughts Go.

Speaker 3:

All right. So we were talking about. You know a lot of people are nervous about what's coming up. Ty started talking about the veiled threats of you don't need to vote, we don't need your vote, don't worry about it. Like, ok, they're need to vote, we don't need your vote, don't worry about it. Like, okay, they're going to push. They're going to push the fear tactics again, trying to get voter intimidation up. But it just got me thinking a little bit about, like the prisoner's dilemma mentality, like if everyone is going to get it.

Speaker 3:

You're going to get yourself to the point of getting scared that something might overpower you. Just remember, we are not in the metaphorical prison. We are not the prisoners. Do not let a bunch of prisoners convince you to come into prison and face their dilemma. This is is not as brilliant as it was going to be in my head, but like we're not on the other side of that don't let yourself get fucking beat up into this defeatist attitude.

Speaker 3:

That is what they want, like they want you scared to vote. Like fuck them, man, what they don't have a plan. Their plan is like hope you'll be scared, don't go for it. I mean yeah.

Speaker 1:

You ain't no prisoner unless you're listening to this in jail, in which case fuck up, I mean, we're all prisoners of the moment, I suppose. So as for my closing thoughts, just really short here. Just recently here, the Supreme Court took up this case from Texas, where Texas has basically implemented its own immigration policy. Again, that is typically the realm of the federal government, in that the Supreme Court didn't step in and shut this shit down, like Texas doesn't get to set immigration policy. That's the job of the administration currently in office and of the laws on the books. Those are for the federal government to enforce.

Speaker 1:

And when previously they were faced with a situation where Colorado wanted to remove Trump from the ballot for being an insurrectionist, one of the arguments that they used in basically rejecting the decision by the Colorado Supreme Court was that they didn't want it to be a patchwork of 50 different laws governing the way, you know, the placement of candidates on ballots work, even though we're already in a situation where all the states have varying degrees of methodology and rules and laws about how ballots work.

Speaker 1:

Yet in this particular instance, they decide to let texas do whatever the fuck they want and create a patchwork of 50 different uh sets of laws. When it comes to immigration law, it's just fuck the the endless fucking hypocrisy on their part. When the Constitution it matters only when it's convenient to them. When it's clear the Constitution bars insurrectionists from being on the ballot, they find a loophole to put an insurrectionist on the ballot because it's their insurrectionist when the Constitution clearly states and ballot because it's their insurrectionist when the constitution clearly states and I believe it's the sixth amendment that the federal government is largely responsible for the enforcement of immigration, pilot will setting and enforcing immigration policy.

Speaker 1:

Well, now, it's okay. Now, with states rights, this is the time you pick and like this is just again a microcosm of a larger problem in the fact that, like you can also look at new york here the appeals court bailing trump out at the last second, giving him a massive reduction to his bond or at least to appeal the judgment in in that case, just like that, there's no accountability, that that no one, especially as far as the legal system goes. The courts, aren't necessarily going to save us and you can't rely on that. Obviously, we're hoping that things work out as as best as possible in trump's criminal trials. We likely might not we likely may not see a number of them take place before the election. So, just just, even if they do, it's always a possibility that some court higher up, including the Supreme Court, will bail him out. So you can't look to the courts to save us. Again, I know it's exhausting, but, just like 2020, it is on us to save ourselves by voting in November. Ty, after you.

Speaker 2:

Us. Okay. So the bridge collapsed in Baltimore today. So you know horrible events. I give shout outs to all the first responders, everyone who showed up and stepped up almost immediately after to get as many people off of the bridge as they can.

Speaker 2:

And when I woke up this morning, and you know when I see all of the news about it, and you know David and I are sitting and I go, sitting in, I go. How long do you think before Republicans turn this into some anti-DEI, racist bullshit? Because that's what they do? So I'm reading posts and those of us resistors, leftists, whatever, well, just those of us that are human, I'll just leave it at that. And it's man, this is horrible. Hope everything's, everyone's okay. And oh, what a tragedy. This was painful to watch. Blah, blah, blah. And then it's oh, and then it's conspiracy theories, and it's this and it's that, and they have no ability to just be.

Speaker 2:

But what it does do is what that built was. That bridge was built in 1977. And then they're going on about DEI and this and that, and it's like this. This fucking bridge was built like 40, 50 fucking years ago. But what it does amplify and highlight is why infrastructure I mean that was a sturdy bridge. That was a nine hundred and fifty foot, you know, cargo boat. So no matter how strong that was, that was going to do some damage, regardless of how strong the bridge was. But just imagine all the ones that have been like, seriously neglected, that aren't a key point of crossing and transportation on the I-95 corridor, that this could happen to, that are always being railed against. So every time I see a post from you know one of these right-wing accounts and they're just like, oh, there needs to be an investment in infrastructure, and it's like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

like I don't know do they?

Speaker 2:

it's like who wants to tell them, like it is so incredibly frustrating, I mean, and they seem to forget, and they're so. They're like oh, mayor Pete, mayor Pete, mayor Pete, oh Pete Buttigieg. And I'm like, did y'all motherfuckers forget that a year and a half ago, a whole motherfucking building collapsed in Florida? Because they don't do inspections with every 40 fucking years, people fucking in their beds wake up and literally crush the fucking dead. And then everybody's like no clamoring for change, no, clamoring for infrastructure, no, you know, going on about who's going to be here, who's supposed to be here, who's going to do this, who's going to do that? But it is, it is a. It is a really disappointing and heartbreaking, on a level, reminder to me that we have crossed that Rubicon of rationality, reality, common sense.

Speaker 2:

At this point, those on the other side don't have the ability to just be, to see something for what it is and to experience, feel, express any kind of you know horror or you know empathy or compassion, or looking for solutions.

Speaker 2:

And okay, yes, this, have things like this, awful as they are, that can happen. But this should wake you up to, like man, like there's a bridge I cross over when I'm going to the east side from the west side where I live here in El Paso, and when I'm going over the overpass and I'm looking at the way the fucking beams look and I already have vertigo, but I'm looking and that shit, just that 10 sec I do, but that 10 seconds when I'm crossing over and I'm like, is this the day? Like, is this the day? Because I know Texas is full of fuckery, you know what I'm saying. And it just like all of these things. And it was like we are never going to have nice things, we are never going to get anywhere until people put aside their addiction to rage, their addiction to culture wars that don't exist and are non-existent, to address the real issues. And the reason that Republicans are so brazen and confident in their lying and their gaslighting is because they know that-.

Speaker 1:

And their stupidity.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes, it's because they know that their stupidity yeah, yes, it's because they know that their base would rather be angry, you know rather, you know, push this bullshit than see any real solutions. Because, at the end of the day, if their problems were solved or they acknowledged that they were being solved, that would take away their standing and confidence and being able to whine about shit.

Speaker 1:

They would actually have to take a step back and look at it would end the existence of all of their grievances exactly, that's all they have and that concludes this episode of part of the insurrection.

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