Decoding The Insurrection

Embark on a riveting exploration of history, media, and reality TV with Miss Jeske from the "Decoding Fox News" podcast as we navigate the complexities of propaganda, politics, and public perception. Delight in the whimsy of cat ownership—my feline friends Odin and Thor included—before we dive headfirst into Europe's brutal past, challenging the sanitized versions of history that overlook the continent's penchant for conflict. From Prussia's military might to the Vikings' misunderstood forays into Christianity, we unravel historical narratives with a critical eye, drawing parallels to present-day media practices.

Miss Jeske brings her seasoned insights into the stark contrasts in news coverage, contrasting the fear-driven tactics of Fox News with PBS's nuanced reportage. We analyze Tucker Carlson's influence, the network's legal dance post-election allegations, and the role hosts play in shaping public opinion. We also strip away the gloss from reality TV, revealing the gritty truths behind Donald Trump's New York real estate image and my own experiences with Celebrity Apprentice. The reality of high-profile trials and the challenges faced by jurors in today's New York round out our discussion, providing a multifaceted look at the narratives that shape our society.

Our episode concludes with a candid reflection on the commitment of Fox News hosts, their on-air personas, and the network's internal dynamics. We celebrate the independent spirit of the "Decoding Fox News" podcast, a testament to the power of crowd-funded journalism free from corporate influence. As we invite you to join this thought-provoking journey, we offer a nuanced perspective on the figures and forces that command our screens and streets, all while encouraging the support of independent media that champions the unvarnished truth.

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Speaker 2: 0:00

Yeah, it just gave me the thing it told me it's recording.

Speaker 1: 0:04

Yeah, so I will, I can tell you all my secrets?

Speaker 2: 0:08

Don't. There's a dead body. And then don't get it.

Speaker 1: 0:12

Hey look, don't worry, if there's anything that you say that or I say that's inappropriate, it will absolutely be edited out upon.

Speaker 2: 0:19

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1: 0:21

But you know, if there are any secrets you want to reveal like breaking news. Okay, but yeah, I'll count us in so you'll know exactly when we start.

Speaker 2: 0:29

Okay.

Speaker 1: 0:30

And I'll introduce you in your podcast and tell people where to find you and then we'll jump right in and you know we'll go as long as you feel like going, I would imagine Okay, all right, give me one more second Kitty what are you doing?

Speaker 2: 0:52

Oh, you've got a kitten. Odin and Thor are my cats.

Speaker 1: 0:55

Oh yeah, that's right. See, I like pets, but I work so much and I'm home so little that they would die.

Speaker 2: 1:02

I get it.

Speaker 1: 1:03

Yeah, so cats are a little bit more low maintenance than like a dog or something.

Speaker 2: 1:08

Your dog's a lot of work. I've never had a dog. I've always had cats.

Speaker 1: 1:11

It's a lot. It's like a human. It's worse than a human because they're not self-sufficient sometimes. But yes, just to make sure I pronounced your last name correctly it's Jeske, right.

Speaker 2: 1:22

Jeske.

Speaker 1: 1:26

Yeah, last name.

Speaker 2: 1:26

Correctly, it's jesky, right, jesky yeah okay, russian, I just want to make sure I get that right again. Prussian, like I'm going to come down off the mountain. Prussians were not. They're a warrior people. They spent. At one point, before prussia became germany, they spent 80 of their budget on their military.

Speaker 1: 1:40

No kidding that seems it was like in the 1880s, but yeah totally normal, especially for the times. I mean, you know, we I think we under we don't underscore enough how war-torn europe was for a couple.

Speaker 2: 1:52

Yeah, they all killed each other.

Speaker 1: 1:53

Yeah, we're like oh, the most evolved civilization?

Speaker 2: 1:56

not really no, not really. Well, it's like one thing I use with white supremacists who say white people aren't as violent. I'm like well, you know, there's only a few hundred years of history where I could show you where white people killed other white people like for no reason. Um, yeah, all over that continent that you call europe. But yeah, like it was not just one war it was like like germany, just just germany, and france, and france and england, just those, just that combo was just one big, constant fight. They kept fighting each other.

Speaker 1: 2:26

Yeah, can you find a 100-year stretch where there was no fighting?

Speaker 2: 2:30

No, no, no. And then the whitest of the white people, my people, came down and started killing people. It's kind of funny, though, because when the Vikings first hit Ireland, they couldn't believe that the monasteries weren't guarded. They were like they couldn't believe there wasn't an army there and they just took all the money and they took everything out and they were like this is like an ATM. And then they they didn't just raid, though, they helped found Dublin, which is why there's a lot of crossed DNA in that area, but combined DNA, I should say. But but the idea of like.

Speaker 2: 3:05

The Vikings were just, they had no idea, they couldn't understand Christianity. So they're like what do you mean? God's protecting this place. They just didn't get it, and the Irish didn't understand why they needed like an army to protect a monastery. But they eventually did, because it was like. The Vikings were just like we've run out of land, we need to get some stuff, we got too many people, we don't, we, you know, we don't have enough resources, so let's go raiding. And then they hit, hit ireland, and they were like cha-ching well, it's funny.

Speaker 1: 3:31

You're like oh they, they didn't understand the concept of christianity. Because they're like our gods are gods of war, baby, yeah, yeah, stay ready in my apartment here.

Speaker 2: 3:42

I mean, yeah, I you read the Norse mythology. You're like what the? I mean it's pretty vicious stuff. So it's like yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:50

But it makes sense for the type of environment and the type of communities they were living in. It's funny how your gods typically tend to align with your society and not the other way around, alas. So true, alright, I'll count us in and we'll do our thing tend to align with your society and not the other way around, alas. So true, all right, I'll count us in and we'll do our thing. Okay, and I trust you to make this entertaining and interesting. You're fantastic.

Speaker 2: 4:11

You need no coaching.

Speaker 1: 4:12

You're better at this than I am, so yeah, just pat yourself on the back.

Speaker 2: 4:17

Chelsea Waters an idiot.

Speaker 1: 4:20

We'll get there. Hey, this is D Knight from the Barney Interaction Podcast and today one of our favorite podcast hosts from the Decoding Fox News podcast is joining us. Let us give a warm welcome to Miss Jeske. Hello to the audience there how you doing.

Speaker 1: 4:46

I'm sure they're doing fantastic if they have time to listen to this, but so we'll start by telling everyone what it is that you do In the shortest possible description. You consume hours and hours of Fox News every single week, and then you provide insight and context to that consumption on Substack and on your podcast, right?

Speaker 2: 5:12

Yes, and I try to. I like openly say that I try to do analysis like I have a master's degree in journalism and I take the journalism part of it very seriously, but then I also just openly make fun of them. So it's a kind of a combination of me sort of breaking down what Fox puts out, the propaganda, the lies and misleading stories, and Greg Gutfeld and really all the primetime hosts, because they're all just it's just a bunch of nonsense. Steve Doocy goes rogue and he'll start, you know, like, well, what do you think about this? And you know he sort of kind of goes against his co-hosts and every time I get one of those clips it performs really well on Twitter, it performs really well on threads and every place that I put it, because people love to see that sort of that machine of Fox News kind of break down a little bit because it's, you know, it's, they are human beings, it's just not.

Speaker 1: 6:23

Are you sure? I'm not entirely certain, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 6:26

Even though it is very much like a propaganda machine, it is very much designed to keep people scared, to keep people paranoid, to keep them on the edge of their seat. Like the world's going to end, the United States is crumbling and I don't really understand the appeal of that, but that's exactly what they sell. So people who watch Fox, they're like going on a roller coaster of dread, you know, and that's. They just lock in and they're like ready to like scare the heck out of me, fox, and that's what they do.

Speaker 1: 6:56

So Right, what's it like for you specifically, consuming hours of this content on a daily basis?

Speaker 2: 7:03

I watch 15, minimum 15 hours of Fox every week, sometimes as much as 30, although that's don't do that. That's don't do that. I've only had to do that in like weird cases where there was an election or something, and I typically watch Fox and Friends, the Five, and then I rotate the primetime shows. So the primetime shows change on the given week, although last week I picked up Jesse Waters and Hannity because the way they were treating the jurors in the Trump trial. So it is. There are times where I have to like walk away from my computer, like I just can't take it anymore. And I'm like I can't because I I get sick of the negativity. It's just so. You know, everything's going to hell, everything's burning down, everything's horrible, um, and that energy kind of gets to me sometimes and I'm just like just zen it out. You know, I always joke. Like people say, what do you do for free time? And I say absolutely nothing, because that's literally what I do.

Speaker 1: 8:03

I just yes, you need a cleanse after consuming a few hours of fox news yeah, like I don't watch msnbc.

Speaker 2: 8:10

Uh, I watch clips of msnbc but I don't go back and forth because it would mess my head up. I do compare everything I watch to pbs, because they're non-partisan and they're straight down the middle and it's like high quality news and that I that I do enjoy the pbs. Let's hone in on that for a second.

Speaker 1: 8:26

So what would you say just in general? Not you don't have to give like super specific examples, but highlight some of the difference, the differences between how fox news might cover a story or a set of stories or daily topics versus how pbs the same.

Speaker 2: 8:43

Well, pbs will just number one. Pbs gets a lot of more international stories.

Speaker 1: 8:50

Okay, well, this one you can give a great example on because I'm sure you're absolutely aware of it like the situation in Haiti. For instance, how did Fox News' coverage of Haiti differ from PBS?

Speaker 2: 9:08

haiti differ from pbs. Well, fox promoted the false uh, um, like it was a myth that there was cannibalism in haiti, when that was not true. Yeah, no, they. They took that totally seriously and put that on air and I can't keep a straight face.

Speaker 2: 9:16

I know, because the the one gang member's name was barbecue, which that had nothing to do with cannibalism, nothing. It had to do with the fact that his mother sold food on the street when he was a kid and that he got the name barbecue from when he was a child. Now he's not a nice guy, Barbecue's not a good dude, but he's not a cannibal. And so I didn't even know that until I was doing research at the end of the week and I an article popped up and said, um, it's a myth, there's no cannibals and it's something that's been hurled at Haiti before in the past just due to racism, and so people have made and voodoo, people have bigoted views towards voodoo. And so I looked into it and I was like, oh yeah, this is all nonsense. And it was very like AP did an article on it and they're very specific. They broke it down. Now PBS didn't even mention the cannibalism thing because it was a goofy hoax, you know, like they're not going to say that. But Fox said, oh, they're cannibals and they're. You know, they're going to come to Florida and they're going to kill everybody. I'm like what? So that's you know.

Speaker 2: 10:16

And the other thing is like PBS with Haiti. That was a slow. That's been going on for two years. For two years, and PBS reported on every single step. You know, like the, I believe it was the president who was killed. The prime minister, who was not elected, was put in power and then he just didn't hold elections for two years and everything descended into chaos. And then, when Fox covered it cannot make this up. I have like three instances, and this is just in the shows I watch three different people said that the prime minister had been killed, and I'm like, no, it's the president and yes, it does matter, because the prime minister wasn't elected. So they kept saying the prime minister had been killed and that the president was in Puerto Rico. And I'm like you're flipping them.

Speaker 2: 10:58

No, and then the other thing is that Fox completely ignored the story until it got really bad, until like, uh, the prime minister tried to come back from I believe he was in Kenya. He tried to come back from Kenya and he couldn't get into his country cause they take it over the airport. So he's been in. This was a conflict. I already knew it was a problem. I already knew that the country was falling into chaos and Fox acted like it came up out of nowhere and I'm like, no, it hasn't you just ignored it. And now, all of a sudden, because you think this will make a good story to scare your viewers of, oh, those evil people from Haiti are going to come into Florida.

Speaker 2: 11:41

And another thing that PBS did that Fox did not do is PBS did a whole story about how the weapons that the Haitians have and they have a lot of weapons all come from Florida. Oops, you know they wouldn't say that on Fox, would they? They're all smuggled in. Almost all of them are smuggled in from Florida because Florida's right there, and basically what they do is they smuggle them into what looks like humanitarian aid. And then you know, you open the big blue barrels, all the different ways you get food and other things down to the caribbean yeah, and there's pops out the guns yeah, boom, yeah, guns.

Speaker 2: 12:16

guns hidden underneath sacks of flour or canned goods or whatever. So that's how they're getting the guns. And so florida is like a huge part of the problem and there lacks gun laws and all that. And then, if you would watch Fox, they're like, oh, these evil Haitians, they're going to come and I'm like what? No, you know, and like, most of the Haitians are just like families, like anywhere else, who just you know they don't want a country that's falling apart. Right, you know, fox would never show like a mother with her kids, you know, trying to get to a safe place. They'll just show like a gang member.

Speaker 1: 12:46

You know, it's just classic, it's classic. Right. So and so Fox has a history of that specific problem, where there is a developing, slow moving crisis that we can all see developing. They won't cover it until it's at its absolute peak Right, and I'm sure they do that with a number of stories. They did it with Israel too. They did it with Israel too.

Speaker 2: 13:06

I actually compiled a list this was nuts. This took like days of every single story that that PBS had written about or included about Israel from the time I started my project in February 2021 or 2022. Sorry, so February 2022, uh, I had. I went through all of my old news newsletters and my spreadsheets and found every single story about Israel. Most of them were short, most of them were like 30 seconds to a minute, and most of it was like these people killed these people. And then there was, you know, some political unrest in the West bank or some people showed up and they blew up a car, stuff like that. Just sad, horrible stories about violence, and it was like one right after the other, and the list, I think, stretched on for like 70 stories and Fox had included none of them.

Speaker 2: 13:57

And then Fox all of a sudden goes oh, there's a war. And then Fox also which was comical about how they've handled the Israel Hamas war in a very bizarre way in that they totally ignore it. They act like Bibi Netanyahu is widely loved, which he's not in Israel, and they only mention casualties at this point when it's IDF, and then even then it's very they don't leave. They leave out a lot of details and it's everything's short and just like oh no. And then they just how can they twist it to bash Biden? What was comical last week is Hannity kept saying we threw Israel under the bus. We threw Israel under the bus.

Speaker 2: 14:40

And then I would find clips of other people on Fox going well, the drones that were sent from Iran were shot down thanks to the US military. And then I would find clips of other people on Fox going well, the drones that were sent from Iran were shot down thanks to the US military. And I'm like we definitely didn't throw them under the bus. If we're shooting, you know, like like people have very strong feelings about Israel, I understand, but like Fox just twists the story in such a bizarre way that, like, even if you were a hardcore supporter of Israel, you'd be very frustrated with their coverage because they don't show you anything.

Speaker 2: 15:06

Like I just and I'm not, I'm not, I'm kind of neutral on it, but it's like one of those things where it's like what, how can you like? How can you show this garbage? It's just an alternate reality completely. When the war first started, they would interview people from Israel and and, of course, and the people would talk to them and they'd always sneak this in, which I loved They'd go. Thank you, president Biden, and I'm like we just want to thank president Biden because president Biden's amazing. Can I thank president Biden? And they would sneak that in and the people in Fox would be like you can see them, like flinch.

Speaker 1: 15:40

And then cut, cut, cut and then cut, cut. Yeah, they did cut a couple of them.

Speaker 2: 15:44

They did a couple. They cut a couple of rabbis kind of abruptly because they went into, like, at the very end of their segments. The rabbis were like and I would just like to thank president biden, and they're like and then what also happened, which was interesting, is I have a few examples of this in my clips, my archives where somebody would like brian kill me, would be like isn isn't Bibi Netanyahu? Amazing. And they'd be like no, I hate him. And I'm like and I'm watching this on my state going, oh my God, like you know, like cheering them on, and then you would see the look of fear on somebody from Fox, like what, you're not supposed to say that. And then the person from Israel was like I'm going to say it. And so there was a couple instances where the Israeli guests would openly fight with the person on Fox who couldn't understand that.

Speaker 2: 16:32

Yeah, oh, it was my favorite clips, my favorite clips where you, you could see that the Israelis were like basically saying like no, he's very unpopular and a lot of people blame him from October 7th what are you talking about? And so that was that was sort of. Then they stopped. They kind of stopped covering the war a little bit, partly because they didn't know how to shape their story. So now they just don't really talk about it. They did talk about it last week.

Speaker 1: 16:55

Well, this is a real instance of Fox news choosing to not cover a story because it literally doesn't fit their narrative, doesn't?

Speaker 2: 17:02

fit their narrative. So they just stopped covering it and they only show what they want to show. And, like I said, the United States relationship with Israel is very complicated. It's a complicated situation but you know, Hannity was basically just selling nonsense to his audience.

Speaker 1: 17:18

And I thought how does Fox News? So you've watched far more Fox News than I. I watch it in clips, but how does the coverage in general? How do they square their support of Israel with a lot of the other anti-Semitic content that they air on their network?

Speaker 2: 17:33

Well, it's been bizarre. They just ignore the fact that they're anti-Semitic, and they are very anti-Semitic because the Great Reset.

Speaker 1: 17:40

Yeah, it's a big open secret. It's not breaking news.

Speaker 2: 17:43

The Great Reset, the Great Replacement. Even though the Great Replacement came from France and originally was anti-Muslim, it has been warped once it got to this country, that conspiracy theory, and now it's very anti-Semitic and they push that constantly, constantly push the Great Replacement. They've also pushed cultural Marxism, which they openly now promote, and there's now books published with cultural Marxism on the title. Senator Ted Cruz, I'm looking at you and that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that's based in absolute nonsense. So all of this gets pushed. Tucker Carlson was openly anti-Semitic and nobody cared. And I'm just sitting here going. I clipped once he was trashing a black. He hated black women to a level that I was fascinated.

Speaker 1: 18:33

Yeah, we don't have to get into that, oh, a horrible man.

Speaker 2: 18:35

He was a horrible man. Horrible man but he would always trash black women and he was trashing a black broadcaster from I believe she was MSNBC, and he slipped in blood libel. So he's trashing this black woman. Who did? I don't know why he was trashing her. I was like I don't other than he just is a racist piece of garbage. And he said are they putting the blood of their babies into your bread? And I went blood libel.

Speaker 1: 18:59

That's an anti-semitic.

Speaker 2: 19:01

Yeah, that's why would you just slip that in casually, like it's nothing? That's super specific and I knew immediately what it was. Clipped it. I screamed, I audibly screamed. Watching that I was like dude, that's not cool.

Speaker 1: 19:12

So, um yeah, because on the one hand, they're nazis, but on the other hand, they support israel.

Speaker 2: 19:17

Very weird marriage yeah, it's about just manipulating their audience, just trying to get as, because they know that conservatives tend to be pro-Israel and the Jewish population is not a monolith at all in the United States and that you've got a myriad of different opinions about Israel in the United States among the Jewish population. So many Jews in New York are incredibly liberal. So to say that they're all pro-Israel, that would not be the I would say absolutely not. I think it's all over the place. So, but I think they're definitely trying to get the evangelical vote that's very pro-Israel, the conservative vote that's pro-Israel, and then the percentage of Jews that are conservative about Israel yes, there are some. So it's sort of that combo, but it is bizarre because they also promote all the sanseismatism. So, yeah, I'm glad that you brought that up, because no one ever does. They always act like it's not a problem. On fox, I'm like no, it's a huge no, it's a huge problem.

Speaker 1: 20:12

Yes, if you don't watch it all the time and you still see it, then it's. It's an extraordinarily large problem. But you brought up tucker carlson there for a second, so how has Fox News weathered the loss quote unquote of Tucker Carlson?

Speaker 2: 20:26

Their ratings are not back to where they used to be. They're not quite there yet I don't think they fully recovered. I think it's been interesting because I don't know, and Jesse Waters kind of tries to be Tucker Carlson but he's not like, yeah, tucker Carlson, I don't agree with anything he says. I think he's a horrible human being but he's very skilled at what he did. He was very skilled at like working his audience and weaving these crazy conspiracy theories. You know he would start off at the beginning of a monologue. He'd do like a 25 minute monologue sometimes.

Speaker 1: 21:02

He would do the reverse Rachel Maddow, where we could have had two minutes on this.

Speaker 2: 21:06

Yeah, I know there's times with Rachel Maddow I'm like, just get to the point, just get to the point. I mean I get it, I get it, you know whatever. But like Tucker Carlson would take like three or four different topics, weave it into one big long conspiracy theory, do 20 minutes on it, right, um, and that's what he was good at. And like somebody like jesse waters is like, uh, you know he'll do something stupid. Like uh, taylor swift is a psyop for the, for the defense you know department. She's a defense department psyop. I mean, it's not a very good imitation of his voice, but it's's sort of the Jesse water. It's like he tries to do it but he's not, he's not as good at it, and so it's just like embarrassing and you're just like he hasn't spent enough time diving down internet rabbit holes, and I just don't think he's smart enough.

Speaker 2: 21:52

Like, and somebody said, do you was if it was just satire with him, I'm like satire. No, you need intellectual capacity to handle satire and parody and he does not have it. He's just dumb as bricks. I say that all the time on my podcast. I met people from Fox. I won't say who, I told them, I promised them I wouldn't say who and I won't even say what event, but I was at a media event, just very vague, and I met a couple people from Fox and I went on more than one media event last year. So figure this out, you will not be able to. But, um, I said to them when I first met them and I realized they work for Fox I'm like Jesse Waters is so profoundly dumb, how do you handle it?

Speaker 1: 22:37

and they just didn't say anything he is extraordinarily stupid and it's I don't even know if he's just stupid, but he's also lazy, like he couldn't even do math. There's this clip of jesse waters railing against people making twenty dollars an hour and he's like oh so two people living together making twenty dollars an hour at mcdonald's it's a hundred thousand dollars a year. They're like floating in cash. It's like bro, have you, do you not know how math works?

Speaker 2: 23:02

like 20 they go 40 grand and then he goes. So if they're married to somebody they're making a hundred thousand dollars. And everybody was like and then somebody even shouted from off camera 80 000. And he just kept going. And I'm like what?

Speaker 2: 23:20

does he actually know what the take home pay would be to for $40,000? Like that's like $40,000 pre-tax, like they tax that so you're not walking, you know? Like to even a couple both working at McDonald's. If they made $40,000 a year, if they had just one kid, that would be. That's hard, you know. Or if you lived in any like major city where rent is a bit higher, that would be challenging.

Speaker 1: 23:42

Yes, very, even with two people and kids.

Speaker 2: 23:45

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 23:45

Like it's funny that you say Fox News hasn't recovered from the well, totally recovered from.

Speaker 2: 23:50

Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 1: 23:51

But given that people are still watching Fox and you have that moron on there, doesn't that kind of speak to the fact that people are just addicted to the network, not? Necessarily the specific host or content would I would completely agree with that.

Speaker 2: 24:04

I would completely agree with that because that would also explain greg gutfeld, because it's like what are you kidding me? Like he, he's very funny because he keeps trying to say that he has a late night show and he doesn't, because now he's on it um 11. No, he's on at 10, he's on at 10 and that's not late night. Late night doesn't start until 11. So he says he's the king of late night and I'm like actually no, your competition is are news shows. You're not a late night comedy show anymore, you're a, you're a prime time comedy show and your, your competition are news programs. So I don't understand why you think that you are competing with late night comedy comedians anymore. And I don't understand his appeal at all, cause it's just I don't think to find him funny, I find him mean, I just I don't he. He can't be photographed standing up because it shows off how short he is which is not funny because conservatives don't understand how humor works.

Speaker 2: 24:58

So that's just mean, they're just mean. They're just mean. They think mean is funny. It's like oh look, it's a homeless person, ha ha, ha. And I'm like what? Like you know, like that's his idea. His idea of funny is calling the women on the view fat. Like really none of them are like fat and like, even if they were, like what are you doing? Like, how is that funny?

Speaker 1: 25:17

like or like if, at least, if you're going to be offensive could you make like good fat jokes at the very least. I mean, you know I'm not a fan of racism, but every once in a while, you know, you occasionally hear a racist joke You're like damn, that was still kind of good on the planet constantly.

Speaker 2: 25:43

It's like how could I not? I've been glowing in the dark. Now look at it's like uh, it's like a joke where I'm always like what's the highest spf that you sell?

Speaker 1: 25:51

okay, I need that and I need to completely encase myself because again, like go ahead and take a shower in that oh yeah so, given the way fox typically varies in its coverage compared to other major news networks, what would you say the biggest major differences are in how Fox is covering the Trump trial versus other networks?

Speaker 2: 26:13

I will say I have been disappointed that every it seems like every major news network or media company included way too many details about the jurors. I thought that was reckless. I thought that was just irresponsible.

Speaker 1: 26:27

Unfortunate.

Speaker 2: 26:28

Yeah, because there's no reason. We don't need to know who likes to dance and who likes outdoorsy stuff, and we certainly don't need to know where they work. That was outrageous. But Fox, of course, because Fox is Fox and there's no shame, there's no bottom. They were like Jesse Waters was openly saying well, jury number two is going to be a problem, you know, like this is a human being who's doing her civil service and now you're openly attacking her. She's not a criminal, she's not, you know, she's not part of the system, she's just a citizen of Manhattan, like a citizen.

Speaker 1: 27:00

She's not on trial. President of Manhattan.

Speaker 2: 27:01

Yeah, she's a just a citizen of manhattan, like a citizen. She's not on trial. President of manhattan. Yeah, she's on a trial and she ended up quitting because people figured out who she was based on all these you know clues he was dropping on fox and right, you're not going to say, oh, we're part of the problem. I mean, I think the grossest thing that I was just horrified by on fox is, from day one, as soon as they got information about the jurors, they were like, slapping up on the screen, juror number one is this is where he lives, this is what he does, this is his race, this is just like, oh, just, I was horrified.

Speaker 1: 27:32

I was horrified. Do you think that's like they're actively trying to engage in witness intimidation on purpose, or this?

Speaker 2: 27:38

Yes, so yeah, I do.

Speaker 1: 27:44

And like, if you zoom out because, like, looking at it in this particular instance, you could probably offer them, you know, like give them some excuse for that type of coverage. But this is in the context of trump spending years now constantly attacking um investigators and prosecutors and judges and lawyers and potential witnesses and, yeah, yeah, people who flip on him. So and and fox does all they can to amplify those attacks, knowing that it will inevitably cause some people to probably face some sort of harm. We've had a number of texts on um. You know the fbi here recently we've had judges getting threats. So so when they amplify these messages, it's not like they're doing it on purpose, like there's obviously no debate there and like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:29

I couldn't help but think of ruby freeman, um, you know she was the example.

Speaker 2: 28:33

She was the poll worker in georgia and she and her daughter were both harassed within an inch of their life. They had people show up to their property. It was like a family it up to their property. It was like a family. It wasn't their home, but it was like a family home showed up physically to this home and like threatened them. And what's so sick about Fox is people. One of the specific quotes that can only be tied back to Ruby Freeman. Now Ruby Freeman has successfully sued Rudy Giuliani for defamation. I don't know how much money she'll end up getting, but she successfully sued him for like millions of dollars. She and her daughter Over a hundred million.

Speaker 2: 29:07

Yeah, over a hundred million, and she's they're also she and her daughter are suing other people because multiple places went after them, and I think they should, because it's the only way to stop this behavior.

Speaker 2: 29:18

But what kills me is that people go on Fox today and still use the reference of suitcases full of ballots and that is specific to Ruby Freeman and her daughter, because that was the claim that they brought in, which they didn't do, of course, but they brought in suitcases full of ballots and I'm like I cannot believe that, after the Dominion lawsuit, where you had to pay out $787.5 million for lying about the 2020 election, that you still have people come on this network and say stuff like, well, we don't want to see suitcases full of ballots again. And I'm just like I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. I just like lose my mind, or like I've seen cases where they'll say, well, they dance right on the edge of this because they think they know that they'd get sued in a heartbeat, but they've implied that E Jean Carroll is a liar and that you know, they don't quite say that out loud because, again- they always find a way to like tiptoe around the line of plausible deniability with everything.

Speaker 2: 30:19

Walk right on the edge and say, well, wasn't that a civil trial? And does that really count? And they'll use language like that rather than say EG and Carol's a liar, which is outrageous because, like EG and Carol's had two trials, two trials.

Speaker 1: 30:31

Both successful and she won both of them.

Speaker 2: 30:32

Yeah, and it's like I don't. Yeah, fox is no shame.

Speaker 1: 30:37

Well, you bring up that lawsuit.

Speaker 2: 30:54

Well, you bring up that lawsuit. So Dominion sued Fox News to the tune of, you know, three quarters of a billion dollars, like considering all the news, that instances that I'm going to say both happened on the weekend, when I don't watch fox, but they were airing rallies of trump and they cut in and said something like the 2020 election was not stolen. They have done that twice yes, I've seen those yeah, they do that twice.

Speaker 2: 31:18

and now they openly say that Biden won in 2020. So they'll just casually say, well, Biden won the election in 2020. And I'm like you know, like that. And then so they say that Must be horrifying yeah. Horrifying. And then so they say that. And then they the one thing that they, because they're also being sued for two point seven million by Smartmatic.

Speaker 1: 31:43

Yes, that's is still coming.

Speaker 2: 31:44

It's working its way through the courts Civil courts are kind of slow compared to criminal, so it's still moving its way through the court system because Fox countersued them, which was not surprising. And so now what they do is they'll just be vaguer, like they won't say Dominion, they won't say Smartmatic, they'll just be vague about their comments, but they still promote the fact that they're still like. I have collections of them just still promoting the big lie. They'll just infer. They won't say it was stolen. They'll just say there was a lot of craziness. That happened in 2020.

Speaker 1: 32:21

We have to make sure you know they're like trump when a gag order is placed on him, he'll try to figure out exactly where the line is and then tiptoe right up to it in hopes that he won't be held responsible. And fox is just doing the same thing, but from a broadcast network perspective yeah, because they just figure.

Speaker 2: 32:38

Well, if we have to pay out a settlement, it will still make money. We don't care, you know, it's just you would. Any other media company would probably have collapsed after paying seven hundred and eighty seven point five million.

Speaker 1: 32:49

I got to tell you I'm surprised they're still in existence too. But I guess of course they can't let their propaganda network go no-transcript has special report and those are like their legit news programs.

Speaker 2: 33:52

But even those I I have watched both and I would say cavuto is is, in my opinion, more legit than brett bear. Brett bear, uh, leans more partisan and they sort of attempt, well, they'll have Democrats on those shows and they'll kind of try to give lip service to we're being fair and balanced and I'm like, no, you're not Cavuto. I did watch him after the Wagner rebellion situation in Russia where the Wagner group tried to like basically try to stage Jakku, but then it kind of failed immediately sort of, and I was curious to see how they would cover it on Fox. And the show that I happened to cover was Cavuto, because it was a weekend and he actually did a good job and I was kind of like, oh, he's actually not being partisan, he's not promoting conspiracy theories. But then I watched Fox and Friends Weekend and Rachel Campos, duffy, who's you know talking about, like what are you doing? She like immediately just goes is this us? Did the US do this? We did this, didn't we? No, no, no evidence.

Speaker 1: 34:58

No, whatsoever.

Speaker 2: 34:59

She just decided that the CIA was somehow, was somehow helping the wagner group and and even her co-hosts were like what are you kidding? Where are you getting this from?

Speaker 1: 35:07

I mean, I still haven't seen evidence that we had any hand in that whatsoever none, none and the proof in the pudding there is well progozin. The leader, former leader of the wagner group is, is long gone dead yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:21

it seems like that was a spontaneous thing that happened without the CIA getting involved. But you know, it was just like it was classic Fox News, where you know Rachel Campos Duffy, who got her start in reality television and somehow parlayed that into you know, working on a news program, you know, just says stuff. She's like the queen of conspiracy theories and she'll just whip them out over you know nothing, with no evidence, nothing to support it, and just go. I think this is crazy, you know, and I'm like what are you doing? Like she kept saying that Michelle Obama was going to run for president. I have, I have a whole selection of that. I have a whole, I have a whole folder full of Michelle Obama is now, you know, they're just like she's like I, it's like it's kind of what the role she plays. She'll just sit there and go, you know, I think, I think Michelle Obama is going to run for president.

Speaker 1: 36:14

I mean, is that just her way of dismissing Joe Biden? I?

Speaker 2: 36:17

don't know. I just I think she really believes it, but I think it's like she's like a crazy person, it's like. I know this might blow your mind, rachel Campbell-Stuffy, but you're supposed to actually have evidence to back up what you say. Like I like. I made that video that showed that Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 2: 36:34

I was one of many I think everybody covered that, which was brilliant and I fell over laughing when I saw how many people did, because I was like rushing to get it out and I kind of thought other people would get it. And then like everybody got it and I was like, oh, this is amazing, and actually was. I was, I thought it was great, but oh, ok, let's.

Speaker 1: 36:53

let me stop you on that real quick. So obviously Trump, being a reality TV figure himself, does this thing where he stages a lot of events and tries to make them look as though they're spontaneous, and then Fox covers that, knowing that they're staged events, but presents them as though they're spontaneous. Like, how is that not basically Fox operating as part of the Trump campaign?

Speaker 2: 37:16

Well, they, they blatantly show for him. I mean, like I have a clip from they still keep bringing up the chick-fil-a uh appearance and, like everybody knows, like the ap got that one too ap interviewed, um, I think her name was michaela montgomery.

Speaker 2: 37:32

They interviewed her and the funniest quote in that was she basically said I'm paraphrasing but she basically said well, I'm upset that people thought that was spontaneous because I worked so hard on it and I'm like yes, she's like admitting that it was totally openly admitting like I got my non-profit together and we I called up all these women and I said let's show up to support trump and they showed up and I was so proud of them and that's how she talks about it right, and then trump's done the same thing with, like, auto workers and yeah it's all the bodega which the bodega, oh my god, the bodega.

Speaker 2: 38:06

Oh my god, I'm just getting so worked up because the bodega, oh my God, the bodega. Oh my God. I'm just getting so worked up because the bodega, that's where I live here and I don't live in Manhattan, but I know every borough. I've worked in every borough. I used to work in special events, so I worked in every single borough in New York and the bodega one is so funny because all the people behind the they had to.

Speaker 2: 38:25

Of course, because of the secret service service, you can't just have the former president walk into a bodega, you can't do that. So it was all cordoned off. They had nypd came in and they put barricades up around the bodega so he could like waltz in there. And if you look at the people behind the barricade, they're all white. Who, do you think, lives in harlem. No, harlem is, you know, mixed. It's gotten more mixed, but it's primarily black people still into that. I mean, it's like what? And then you could see, because it was included in other clips on the Internet, people who actually live there, who didn't drive in from Long Island, yelling at Trump.

Speaker 1: 39:00

Black people going right across the street. Yeah, all this profanity and screaming at him and I'm like, yeah, that's New York, that then the story that comes out of that is look how the black community supports Trump, even in New York. It's insane.

Speaker 2: 39:12

I didn't see any black people behind those barricades. I didn't see any. They were all white people from Long Island, probably Long Island or New Jersey. They're like I gotta go see Trump. What was so funny is when I saw the other clips. I didn't see this until a couple of days later, but I was like, of course, and it was like people who actually lived in the neighborhood going shut up, we hate you. And I was like, yes, yes, yes. I mean I used to live in a neighborhood that was 70% black. I used to live in Flatbush, brooklyn, and that, are you kidding? I don't. Nobody liked him, like nobody.

Speaker 1: 39:44

Oh, my goodness, oh yeah, I was like I don't just making stuff up. Ok, this is like outside of the news coverage, but since you're practically a New Yorker at this point, you've been there 23 years.

Speaker 2: 39:58

Yes.

Speaker 1: 39:59

How do you think Trump's reputation in New York pre presidency is going to affect his trial as far as the jury is concerned? Is going to affect his trial as far as the jury is concerned, because you know, of course you've got Fox News covering the jury with the intent of making sure jurors are intimidated. But I don't think like New Yorkers are going to suffer that too kindly. And also like, do you think, given New Yorkers' feelings about Trump, that most of the jurors can be fair and impartial?

Speaker 2: 40:29

Well, it's weird because, you know, I think there are people who I mean, like I had jury duty in Brooklyn and it was a murder case and I just told the judge I can't do it because of this job, it's too hard, because this job takes up so much time. And then they asked a question about police and I said, well, my sister's a criminal defense attorney and I hear a lot of bad stories about the police. Here's a criminal defense attorney and I hear a lot of bad stories about the police. So I don't, you know, I I'm just kind of like I just would have to see. I don't automatically trust people. Basically is what I said, and then I immediately got kicked off the jury. But I think some people really do take that very seriously and want to be impartial. I will say so I can't speak for the jurors, Like I can't speak for the. I don't know them and I don't know, not specifically.

Speaker 1: 41:07

I would say some of them are New Yorkers.

Speaker 2: 41:09

I think some of them are being impartial, but I will say that in general, trump was seen as a clown before he ran for president. He was never seen as somebody who's lived here for 23 years. He was never seen as. I actually worked on the celebrity apprentice too no Apprentice 2, no kidding as a stand-in two seasons I stood in for the woman who had a bunch of kids, who was married to the Asian guy. Oh, I can't. Kate, kate, kate, kate Gosling.

Speaker 1: 41:38

I haven't watched the Apprentice.

Speaker 2: 41:40

Kate and something plus eight Kate. I stood in for Kate.

Speaker 1: 41:43

That's it, yes.

Speaker 2: 41:44

And yeah, I can't remember her last name. And then I stood in for a penthouse playhouse, a play, play, play person, whatever, and she was on a season before that. It was basically blonde women who I stood in for and he was not liked by the crew. He was just seen as sort of a guy who was good at getting publicity but nobody like they're like New York real estate. He's not even close to the top people in New York real estate, not even close. There there's families that own, you know, huge sections of New York. They're like NYU owns a huge section of New York. Columbia University owns huge sections of New York.

Speaker 1: 42:25

And he's got his name on a couple of buildings.

Speaker 2: 42:27

He's got his name some places and, like even Trump Tower, all the condos are leased to the individual owners.

Speaker 1: 42:33

He owns the retail space, the penthouse and the retail space.

Speaker 2: 42:36

And he owns his penthouse, and that's it.

Speaker 1: 42:38

And like is Trump's Soho, even in Soho.

Speaker 2: 42:41

No, and it's not his building anymore. I don't think it's his. I don't. I have a list. I don't have it in front of me, but I have a list of all the buildings that he technically doesn't own anymore, or that people think he owns but he doesn't, or he just owns part of it. Um, he's not a big shot in new york. He was never viewed as a big shot in new york. He was known as somebody who got a lot of publicity. He was known as somebody who was brash and was in the press a lot and then he had that goofy show, the apprentice, and then celebrity apprentice, but he was never known as being like this great business person at all.

Speaker 2: 43:13

And uh, the central park five issue the fact that he got very involved in that and if you're, if you're, uh, viewers don't know that crazy story. Uh, it was a horrible story where a woman was brutally raped in Central Park and they didn't know who did it at first, and then they rounded up five young men and they were teenagers, latino and black, and they kind of railroaded them and it came out years later that somebody else admitted to it and the DNA matched that other person and the woman didn't remember what happened because she was knocked unconscious and she doesn't even remember it. But uh, the central park. Five were all exonerated and one of them is now a city councilman yay, and he's actually in harlem, which he's actually in that area where trump was.

Speaker 2: 43:59

Cannot make that up. That made me so happy when I found that out. But trump had taken out a huge ad in the new york, I believe, that said like they need the death penalty and like he just went straight for those young men and teenagers' throats. Some of them were still children, I believe. If my memory serves, they were very close to being children. They were very young.

Speaker 1: 44:21

Yeah, very young teenagers, very young.

Speaker 2: 44:22

They were teenagers and they were just railroaded because people were outraged about the crime and mistakes were made in the prosecution and they locked up the wrong men. In my humble opinion and many others, especially since they found the guy who actually did it and they matched DNA to the scene and the guy who really did it had a whole pattern of doing that right, so it was even more evidence that's all he did was attack women. So, yeah, trump is not like a beloved I mean anybody who thinks he's like this beloved New York's favorite guy no, not at all Like he was never thinking like 2015.

Speaker 1: 44:59

It would have behooved the nation to come to speak to people who actually lived in New York about Trump, because he probably wouldn't have won the election. They'd be like oh, it's a clown show, it's a clown show.

Speaker 2: 45:08

It's a clown show and the joke about that and I've written about this as well, and I'm hardly the only person who's written about this but the people at 2015 when he came down the escalator, the people with signs like we love Trump those were paid actors. This is well known. This has been many articles have been written about it. I used to be a performer and at the time we would get casting notices like you sign up for services. And I saw the casting notice and it was like I think they got paid 50 bucks cause it was a live event, not on camera, so it wasn't under the union. So people went and did it and then they were horrified that he actually won.

Speaker 1: 45:43

Yeah, they're like oh, we thought it was going to be hilarious. Yeah, they thought it was going to be hilarious. Yeah, they thought it was going to be a joke?

Speaker 2: 45:47

Yes, yeah, they thought it was going to be a joke, and I know people who were like the paid actors to be there.

Speaker 1: 45:52

So just like that's, he's just a huckster, that's it, that's his MO, the elevator speech travels through time all the way to present day, and then we end up at Chick-fil-A with some staged event.

Speaker 2: 46:05

Yeah, chick-fil-a vent and like I'm sorry, but that was like an extra layer of that. That just I found very offensive was the fact that it was a chicken place.

Speaker 1: 46:12

You know black people to look, hey, I'm not gonna bring that. It was like that bothered me. I mean, I know chick-fil-a is for chicken chick-fil-a is every.

Speaker 2: 46:21

You know I get it and like, trust me, plenty of people in new york go to. We have many chicken places here, but it just that. Just seemed like the stereotype and like what are we doing? And the black girl?

Speaker 1: 46:32

Yeah, it was. It was a lot, but let's, let's take it back to Fox News really quickly before I let you go. So, of all the Fox News hosts, past and present, which one would you say, or which handful would you say, are your favorites and your least favorites?

Speaker 2: 46:52

a handful where you say are your favorites and your least favorites. Um, I am thoroughly entertained by judge janine, even though I hate everything that comes out of her mouth for the most part. But I she's entertaining because she always gives me material and because she's so. I just have no idea what she's gonna do. Like what is she gonna throw a pen? Is she going to because she has she's thrown pens at people? Is she going to uh, you know, admonished greg gutfeld? Is she going to yell at jesse waters, which I've seen her do? That? I don't know. She's like a live wire, so every time.

Speaker 1: 47:20

Feel free to do your janine impression anytime.

Speaker 2: 47:22

Oh wait, I gotta wait, I gotta go, I gotta put the mic waiver here. I judge janine, do her in my podcast. I do a version of her voice and this is the voice. It's very loud and there's a rhythm to the way she speaks. Yeah, that's a that's a well known bit in my podcast that I do judge janine pretty much every week. Sometimes I do carrie lake um, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1: 47:45

That's about as good as my trump impression there you go.

Speaker 2: 47:48

I mean she's one of my favorites. And then, um, steve ducey's always entertaining, because he's another one. I have no idea what he's gonna do. And then he's like such a boomer and that he says crazy stuff where he's just like like out of nowhere he'll just be like you know what? I'm gonna go play pickleball and I'm like where's this coming from? And then he fights with his co-workers all the time, corrects them openly, fights with them, spars with them, says stuff in defense of Biden, all the mean. And in my opinion, he's racist and incredibly transphobic, like bizarrely transphobic, like it doesn't make sense. He's so transphobic, very hateful, hateful person. He's come for me personally, which was funny because all he did was give me more followers, but yeah, I mean he did like significant. I got 20% boost out of that one.

Speaker 1: 48:49

And then maybe you're not the only person hate watching greg and such yeah, a lot of people don't like him.

Speaker 2: 48:53

I think I think he found out a lot of people follow him on twitter who don't actually like him, because when he came for me, I got this huge boost from it. Um, the other person I would say that I just think is uh, it's hard to know like. What I would say was like, I like um, this is a funny one. I like uh, joey. This is his real name, joey johnny jones. He's a uh veteran who's lost both of his legs. He actually comes across as a decent human being, even though I don't agree with most of his political beliefs. But he's a rare one where I'm like no, I think he's a good human being.

Speaker 2: 49:30

Ansel Ainhart would probably I'd probably get along with her. Fine, she seems fine. I mean like, I don't agree with her politics, but I don't think she's a horrible human being. Hannity drives me nuts. Um, who else trying to think? Uh, harold for junior just disappoints every, every damn, every damn day. He's just like I'm just. I'm gonna agree with everybody. I'm harold ford junior. I'm a liberal, what? Uh? Jessica tarloff is everybody's hero, and then she's the liberal who's like super whip sharp no, she's actually fantastic.

Speaker 2: 50:00

So, richard fowler, though who we? Who richard fowler? She is fantastic. Everybody loves tarloff. Richard fowler is a black gay man who's been sitting in that slot, and Richard Fowler might be, because she just had a baby. So we're not going to see Tarloff for at least a couple of months. And Richard Fowler does a pretty good job. He's not as seasoned as she is, but he's. He's very sharp and he's very good at dealing with them.

Speaker 2: 50:24

And yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anybody who I just loathe. And yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anybody who I just loathe. I don't really hate these people. I just I mean, I just I find them very. I just I like Tucker Carlson was the one that I would want to throw up watching. I just couldn't. He was. And when he got fired I will say this when he got fired from fox, it was, it was like everybody's birthday. Who follows all the accounts that follow fox, like me? Aaron rupar, media matters, uh, asin, everybody else out there, asin's with midas touch. Um, everybody else out there was just like like. We were just like like kind of virtually hugging each other online, like hey look, losing losing three quarters of a billion dollars.

Speaker 1: 51:11

Somebody had to go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:13

So that was, that was like the big, the big big moment, but like um, yeah, that would be it, like uh, and then, I think, uh, some of their, some of their uh, regular guests I'm not a fan of, because I'm just like, oh, just stop lying, stop lying. There's a couple, uh, so, yeah, it's kind of all over the place, but there's, there's, there's a couple generals that they have on that I like because they're more reasonable, like the military people, um, and then there's some that are just completely nuts, so it just depends on the day, but, um, like jack, they have a, they have a general called jack keen and he's he's more moderate and every time they have him on, I'm like he'll be like we need to support ukraine and I'm like, yes, you know, and again they have to do the thing like cut and I'm like we got jack keen.

Speaker 2: 51:58

We got jack keen. So I'm always excited when he's on, but like um, and then there's people like joe concha, which I'm like I don't even like dude, like joe concha is hanging in there, he's like one of the regular contributors and Hannity will turn to him and go you need your own show, you need your own show. And they don't even have him sub, like when they go on vacations and stuff. Joe conscious, never behind that seat, he's never. He's never behind the desk. And I'm just like Joe conscious, dude man, I just I feel bad for you Like watching this, like you're never elevated and they have him come on at like 4am Wow.

Speaker 2: 52:35

They'll use him at Fox and Fres and Fox and Friends first, which is in at 4am, and I'm just like Joe Concha, um, but yeah, I mean, I have no personal beef with him, but I just kind of go. God, that's this weird tier, like there's definitely a hierarchy there, definitely, definitely, and I did talk about this the other day. Like the blondes are more like oh, I'm a blonde on Fox, I'm not going to interrupt you or ever raise my voice, and the brunettes are like what, what's going on here? Because, like Judge Jeanine Rachel Campos, duffy, this woman named Tammy Bruce, emily Campagno, they're all much louder and much more abrasive.

Speaker 1: 53:13

And I'm like what is up with that Kennedy? I feel like they're all going in the vein of Alina Haba now that she's been hired by Trump.

Speaker 2: 53:17

Oh, she's Alina Haba. She's comedy gold, man, comedy gold. Absolutely, you can't make that up Like what is she going to say? Would I?

Speaker 1: 53:23

rather be intelligent or beautiful. Well, you know anyway. But yes, one last thing before we let you get out of here. So what percentage of Fox hosts, would you say, actually believe the BS that they push every day, versus the people who, just you know, show up and cash a check and say what they're told?

Speaker 2: 53:41

I would say most of them. I say most of them, believe it. I do. I think most of them are true believers.

Speaker 1: 53:45

So they're really on TV, like for the culture, except it's the world.

Speaker 2: 53:49

Yeah, I think somebody like I think some of their guests might not be completely on board with some of the nonsense, but they need the paycheck. Some of their medical contributors are better than others, some of them are more legit, but I would say without hesitation that I would. Easily. 90 percent of them are true believers. Some of them are more true believers than others. I think some of them were.

Speaker 2: 54:13

This is the weird thing. I think some of them were more Nikki Haley fans or or were more DeSantis fans and had to just sort of swallow it and go with Trump. I definitely saw that. I definitely saw some people on the network who were leaning more towards a more sane Republican. Not that I'm a fan of either one of those people, but like I think that they thought, well, they're not crazy, but now they're all, they're all in for Trump and yeah, I don't, I it's. It's weird, but I think I think that the biggest believers honestly, or would be, would would be like judge Janine, I think, is a true believer. Ansley Einhardt is a true believer. Hannity a hundred percent. Jesse Waters definitely. Greg Gutfeld definitely. Greg Gutfeld's politics are very odd.

Speaker 1: 54:58

Yeah, he's kind of all over the place. Yes, right, I don't even know how he gets it Kind of a libertarian, but not really. But yeah and um and uh yeah it's like someone who supports ukraine and hamas. You'd be like how did you get to that?

Speaker 2: 55:12

yeah, he's an odd man. He was very anti-ukraine from this from the very beginning, which was very strange, because you're like huh and uh, he he's, yeah, he's, he's an odd dude, odd dude, but he, uh, I don't, I don't know, like I said, like I don't know any of them, that I it's strange, but I do think that they are. Maybe Deucey may not be as right wing as he once was. I think he might be disillusioned. That's what I see, that's what I suspect, but I can't read his mind, so I have no idea. This is my gut feeling, that he's kind of like over it a little bit, but I don't, I don't know, it's a it's a creepy network to watch because it's just rage and fear and paranoia all day long and I'm like, yeah, you summed it up.

Speaker 1: 55:55

Every time I cut the, every time I cut the Fox news on, I'm like, okay, I got to cut this off. This is it's way out there.

Speaker 2: 56:09

It's too wacky. We're always at the brink. Things are about to explode. You know, like it's never just like I've said this before like we do have a migrant crisis, but if they, if we had two people crossing the border every day on Fox, they make that a crisis. They would, you know, it doesn't matter, they would invent a crisis even when there isn't one. That's how they roll, you know, they they also. Here's a funny one oh, charles Payne, who's Fox business? This is the kind of stuff that they do. It was one of my favorite clips ever, cause it was just total nonsense.

Speaker 2: 56:36

He said this um, in the fall, the year I guess it was 2022 and the Biden's um what do you call it? It student loan bill was still pending and very much pending. And Charles Payne looked into the camera and said well, we have inflation right now because of all these checks going out to pay for these student loans and people are just spending wildly. And I'm like there's no truth to what you just said, because nobody was going to get a check. Nobody gets a check, the program isn't even. It's stalled. It's going to collapse. We all knew it was going to collapse at that point, but he said that with a straight face.

Speaker 1: 57:18

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It's nonsense yeah.

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