Kamala Harris Is What The Culture Is Feeling

Can Joe Biden survive the relentless media attacks and party opposition as he faces accusations of orchestrating a coup if he drops out of the 2024 race? Join us for a compelling exploration of the intricate political dance between President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. We shine a light on Harris's underrated political prowess, revealing how her strategic maneuvering secured pivotal states during the 2020 election. The conversation unpacks media narratives sculpting public perception and hones in on Harris's remarkable ability to resonate across party lines, drawing unexpected bipartisan support.

Did Donald Trump intentionally sabotage peace in the Middle East for his electoral agenda? Recent PBS reports suggest so, offering a damning look at Trump's alleged meddling in the Gaza conflict to undermine Democratic efforts. This episode contrasts the distinct energies and public personas of political figures like Biden, Harris, and Trump. We also delve into the fallout from Trump's controversial decisions, such as abandoning the Kurds and bungling the vaccine rollout, while addressing the contentious issue of Attorney General Merrick Garland's perceived inaction against Trump's transgressions.

Trump's unauthorized use of Beyoncé's "Freedom" without permission is more than just a legal misstep; it highlights deeper issues of cultural appropriation and authenticity. Listen as we dissect how this controversy connects to the broader themes of political and cultural integrity. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris's campaign is gaining unprecedented traction, even among traditionally skeptical outlets like Fox News. We discuss how Harris is reinvigorating the Democratic Party by championing a diverse slate of political figures and drawing bipartisan endorsements, setting the stage for a transformative movement with an energy that truly resonates with voters.

Chapters

• 0:05 Biden and Harris Political Dynamics
• 10:33 Trump's Interference in Middle East Peace
• 27:11 Trump's Appropriation of Music for Campaign
• 32:56 Democratic Party Energy and Enthusiasm

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:05

Let's talk about the cool thing for a second. Biden actually shared his thoughts on whether or not he felt like him. Basically having his hand forced and dropping out of the 2024 electoral race was a coup.

Speaker 3: 0:36

I think he has a problem. That's it. That sums it up.

Speaker 1: 0:41

Yeah, okay. So let's be fair here. So what happened on January 6thth? That was a hard coup. That was a plot by a sitting president to try and end the legislative branch, to remove their check on his power and, you know, to stop the peaceful transfer of power from him to the duly elected president. That was a hard coup. This was not that, but this was a soft coup in this sense.

Speaker 1: 1:12

It's basically the idea that, in terms of being like a president running for election, it's election year, you're this close to the election, the media has turned on you. They're obsessed with making sure that you lose the election. There's no way in these modern times that a sitting president can go to war with the media that's doing that to you and also go to war with half of the members of Congress in your own party. It's a recipe for failure, a disaster nonetheless. And once you're in a position where the party is ready to go to war with you to get you off the ticket, there's nothing. They can't fire you You're in office but they can make sure you lose the election and given just the stakes involved with the second Trump administration, it would have been. You know. Obviously they didn't leave, buying a lot of choice.

Speaker 3: 2:11

I think what they didn't bank on, what they were hoping, was that they would push him out and leave the Dems in disarray, that there would be this power vacuum and people fighting for a spot going into the convention, and that it would be a splintered convention. It would be chaos. Yeah, the media wanted the narrative was the exact opposite, because they have spent the past three and a half years just talking about how kamala Harris hasn't done anything. That she's unlikable. The turnover in her, her part of the administration.

Speaker 3: 2:51

So they were building her up to be this unlikable so they did not think that she would have this force of power and support behind her. They did not. They didn't see that at all.

Speaker 4: 3:04

Never underestimate a woman.

Speaker 1: 3:08

And that was a total misread. Not understanding what happened in 2020 when Biden chose her as his vice president. That was, you know, apart from Trump's mishandling of the pandemic largely the reason that you know Biden powered his way into the White House, especially when, in states like Georgia and Arizona I mean Arizona may be less so, but obviously without her on the ticket, biden's chances of getting Black people to turn out in massive numbers the way they did in 2020 probably would have been the difference that you know cost them a state like Michigan and definitely Georgia, and, if you lose or I guess you know Pennsylvania as well- Detroit, Atlanta, Philly.

Speaker 1: 3:57

Yeah, all them cities predominantly black or huge black populations turned out in massive support and in those states you know, he won by a handful of thousands of votes and we were probably the difference maker and the reason there was so much enthusiasm to get out and vote apart from just being anti-Trump but being pro-Biden Harris Harris is a part of that.

Speaker 3: 4:20

I think that for anybody to say that oh, she wasn't popular, then you obviously haven't been paying attention to her, because everywhere she goes she got mad love. That's why she has a K-Hive.

Speaker 4: 4:32

She filled up two stadiums at once, she got the K-Hive.

Speaker 3: 4:36

You got the K-Hive. It was like y'all just weren't paying attention. You were sleeping.

Speaker 1: 4:41

But here's what that is though that narrative that she she's quote, unquote, unlikable. Guess where that started? Fox news same thing, same thing they did. I know because I've watched the clips. Same thing they did to hillary, they did to biden and they were preparing to do it to kamala harris by starting this thing like hey, if we convince enough of right-wing supporters that harris is unlikable, then the media will just do the polling on Kamala Harris and the polling will come back saying she's unlikable. Obviously the media. You know, over the course of the entire Biden administration, how many times have you seen mainstream media anywhere sit down and talk to Biden voters? It ain't never happened.

Speaker 1: 5:22

You never see it, it's like a. It's like a ban on talking to people who voted for biden in 2020. Even though it was 81, it was more people that ever voted. More people voted for biden than any other president and they couldn't find three people and they erase us. Yeah, it's fucking crazy, you know, but that's how you know the fix was in, because that that's your proof. It's in the pudding, and the pudding tastes like defeating Democrat. I mean defeating Republicans.

Speaker 3: 5:49

Well, see, the thing is is that now Republicans are behind her too. So when they go up in a place and they think they're going to get, they're getting their asses lit up and I love it for them. They're getting shock face, you know. So they can't really skew the polls, because that even republicans where they're like oh yeah, we're gonna go in this ruby red area here and they're like you know, I kind of like her, oh, you know yeah, she's fun, she's charming, she's smart, she's well, I mean I hate to say that thing, but you know, well spoken, I mean she's articulate I won't say that and waltz absolutely was but she's a very effective communicator, which is not something that can be said about everyone no, she is, and in a way that's novel compared to what we've had the past, you know, 20 years in the white house.

Speaker 1: 6:40

I mean, obviously george bush was a fucking moron and dick cheney was also a weirdo, and then obama had a rock star quality to him, but it was measured right. Um trump. Obviously he's got the appeal to the dumbest people on planet earth, and biden has a way of speaking the most evil that's's true that part Biden is an effective communicator in terms of relating to people.

Speaker 1: 7:10

He won't use the most egregiously complicated language, but he's effective and thoughtful and empathetic and that comes across to people. That's why people look at him as like Uncle Joe. But she's got a thing about her that is, I mean, model-esque, I suppose. I mean she's got a definitely got her own version of a rock star quality, which is why, if you like to open up the TikTok and look at the political content she's got like hit TikTok clips. Just she goes viral every time she opens her mouth and you know. Not to mention, she's got a lot of star power behind her, especially in the black community, obviously. Um, why are you giggling?

Speaker 3: 7:51

no, I know, I was just thinking about walls and I was watching him. Was it in milwaukee or one of his other ones? And you know how animated he is, and just go, go. And then my and I'm looking and I'm sitting in bed and I'm watching this clip on my phone and I'm thinking Howard Dean is looking at him like ain't this a bitch?

Speaker 1: 8:13

that's so funny, cause you made Howard Dean made one weird noise and we got his ass up out of there that was it, and I'm like Howard Dean's gotta be sitting there, like ain't this a bitch.

Speaker 1: 8:23

You remember like Howard Dean's got to be sitting there, like ain't this a bitch you remember that Howard Dean moment he's got to be feeling some type of way right now were you like, engaged with news and political coverage at the time when Howard Dean was just, you mean his introduction yeah, pretty much which is like I remember being crazy.

Speaker 4: 8:46

Well, yeah, and it was like, and Howard.

Speaker 3: 8:47

Dean was super excited. He got a little too high Woo.

Speaker 2: 8:52

And then we got him up out of there. He was like hell.

Speaker 1: 8:55

No, son, you let Dick Cheney shoot a motherfucker in the face. But Howard Dean, dog, you gots to go. It's crazy, mind how things have changed. But yeah, if Biden is like has that uncle energy, then Tim Walls has that pops energy and people are rocking with it in a way that again in the ways that the convention use those videos to kind of paint Trump as nothing like the average person, tim Walls is like everybody's well, if you're white, everybody's dad or granddad.

Speaker 3: 9:32

That one that'll get out there and the music's going and start dancing and you'll be like Dad, come on.

Speaker 1: 9:38

But he'll also hit a little juke, though, and it'll be like oh yeah, he doing it up, yeah, but he'll also take your hunting and take your fishing and he'll cook dinner and he'll, but he'll also pop a glass of champagne, which is like he's, he's everything you would want, like in every way that you might think of kamala harris as a candidate and what she may be lacking in terms of being able to relate to the average person not saying that she doesn't, but in specific areas where you might look at her and say, well, she could use this, this, this and this. You have a counterpart that presents that in Tim Walls, and it was a perfect pick. Obviously, again, we talked about this at the selection she narrowed the list down to a handful of people, including Shapiro in Michigan, and he's been crushing it here lately. He's committed to making sure Harris wins Pennsylvania, and I don't think that would have been a bad pick. But having seen Tim Walls, it's like how could you? Yeah, how could you not? You could not.

Speaker 3: 10:40

And also too, like I said, like I was saying, like I think that even though Walls is only two years older than Harris, he does to present older and that, I think, resonates with the like, the rural, the older Republican that are still normal.

Speaker 1: 10:59

It's in the same way that Biden and Trump are basically the same age, but people think of Biden as older, even though they're the same age, even though it's just biden sounds old and trump no, trump's energy is manic energy.

Speaker 3: 11:10

It's maniac energy. Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's.

Speaker 1: 11:14

It is white powder energy and not not white power. It's also that he's got white power energy, but he also has white powder.

Speaker 4: 11:21

it's a bit of both A bit of both.

Speaker 1: 11:22

yeah, so, moving on, there was reporting by PBS of Donald Trump, and we know that he's had conversations with Netanyahu over the past year, but there was reporting by PBS about the subject matter of those communications and well, obviously it's as bad as you could possibly think.

Speaker 2: 11:50

We know that Secretary of State Blinken is over there right now working with Netanyahu. The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel urging him not to cut a deal right now because that is, it's believed that would help the Harris campaign.

Speaker 1: 12:13

All you free Palestine people, man, y'all been protesting the wrong guy. So obviously, if you've paid attention to reporting, biden's been trying to cut a deal to basically end the war in Gaza, likely with a plan for a second state in Israel, one for Palestine, one for Israel. Over the past what? Eight months now? And that was even as he was negotiating a ceasefire deal in the winter of last year. He's actually gotten Hamas to the table numerous times and they've agreed to multiple versions of a ceasefire in principle, but Netanyahu would always haggle over the details, find a handful of things that he didn't like, change the deal, then Hamas would disagree and it would just keep this war going in perpetuity, at least as it appears. Well, now it's been made public that Trump's been pressuring Netanyahu to just keep this war going long enough to hurt the Democratic chances of winning in November, since the protesters typically only protest Democrats, of winning in November, since the protesters typically only protest Democrats.

Speaker 3: 13:25

And now you know part of the reason why the war is waged on this long well that, and Bibi wants to stay out of prison because they can't have elections unless there is a ceasefire until the war is over.

Speaker 4: 13:38

So he's got other reasons, both of them are willing to let as many more people die as they have to to stay out of prison. I mean and this would be the second time, Well, more than the second time recently but this is one of the second big examples of Trump choosing himself over the country. We have this and him preventing a border deal.

Speaker 1: 14:03

Yeah, I mean he's made multiple decisions that have hurt entire groups of people. It's not just this, like even the situation with the Kurds, where we basically abandoned them yet again. Yeah just like just. They deserve better.

Speaker 3: 14:24

Sabotage Afghanistan and then wouldn't share the details with the Biden administration during the transition of power.

Speaker 1: 14:34

Yeah, and also the fact that they didn't even have a covid plan to roll out the vaccine. They wouldn't share that information which, if Biden had just known, they would have had, you know, two months to get that going and be ready to hit the ground running. But, alas, you know Trump using his political position to not only continue a war, but just also that he manages to do all this stuff and not face any accountability or blame for that matter. People, just like you know, like, oh well, that's Trump. Like no protest, that guy it's also illegal yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:11

Yeah, well, there's also that I mean. So people have been commenting legal Twitter has been on fire since those revelations, talking about the Logan Act and I got to tell you, with this Supreme Court, first of all, like they're not going to, like even the charges aren't going to stick, and even if they somehow let it go to trial, I think it would be extraordinarily difficult to get a jury to convict on this, for probably just two reasons. One, like the theory is so abstract that it would be difficult. Like as a candidate for president, you do have a wide latitude to you know, campaign and talk with members of foreign countries, but also just is so unproven, like I can't, I don't really like legal scholars out there, probably laughing.

Speaker 3: 15:57

He's testing everything. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 15:59

I think it's yeah, I think it's been something like 80 years since. Like a Logan Act prosecution you know what I mean and also just like the process of getting the trial will be long and drawn out. And I am I've always been on this kick. Since we started the podcast. I've been like, hey, man dude's committed so many crimes and his lawyers are so bad. Hurry up and charge him with anything. Just charge him with something. Charge him with anything and even if it's a traffic ticket, he'll end up going to jail. Do you have a question?

Speaker 3: 16:42

is mary garland dead? No, mary garland, look, is he still alive, because I I haven't heard hide nor hair. Yeah, but you thinking of it in terms of like tv lawyer, like he's supposed to be out here holding press conference, but I, I need, but at this point though, and I that, and if we were in ordinary times, I totally get it, but we're not, and right now we, as a public, we need assurances that something's going on, that something is getting done, and I understand he also can't reveal all of his hands, because there's some shit that he's got to do.

Speaker 1: 17:19

First of all, he can't come out publicly and talk about Trump, because Trump's under indictment and those statements would be used by the defense counsel in court at trial to paint the prosecution as political, so he's not going to comment about Trump.

Speaker 1: 17:38

Sorry, I mean once Trump was indicted, that was the end of that. And the other thing is like again, I hate to say this because it took forever to get a Trump indictment, but Mary Garland is largely responsible for Trump being indicted in both cases. Like all of the information that Jack Smith used to indict Trump most of that was gathered under Garland and like including signing off on the search warrant in Mar-a-Lago that got the documents back. Signing off on the search warrant in Mar-a-Lago that got the documents back. Like and the reason why he probably Trump probably didn't get charged before he announced he was running for office is because Judge Cannon down there even delayed the investigation by like holding up the execution, like the use of the recovered materials for like a month or two but that, and trump also preemptively announced he was running, he did it way or he knew.

Speaker 3: 18:28

He knew, yeah, what was coming, and he announced way before candidate generally announces like right, eight months ahead of that time.

Speaker 1: 18:38

So then, by the time four months to five.

Speaker 3: 18:40

No, it was longer than that months. No, it was longer than that, no I think it was longer than that.

Speaker 4: 18:45

Did he officially announce it or he kept teasing it?

Speaker 3: 18:49

He officially announced it.

Speaker 1: 18:50

November of 2022, right after the election, which is super early. Typically, you know, campaigns really start ramping up as early as the next summer, but you know spring's not unusual, but like November, two years, it's unheard of. But he did that specifically to avoid prosecution.

Speaker 3: 19:10

Yes, and so he could say they're going after Biden's political opponent. And that became the narrative from the beginning, as soon as things were coming down.

Speaker 1: 19:20

Well, I'll tell you why. That likely delayed prosecution more than more than you, than people give Garland credit for and you know, credit Jack Smith for it actually delayed it at least by a month or so. Because, from what I understand, the first thing Jack Smith did when he took over the investigation not not that the investigation stopped, but it was like all right, we got to start over from scratch. We got to look at every detail all the way up from like the beginning of every investigation. We got to like cross all our T's, dot all our I's, we got to look at every detail. I want to know everything. And that probably that decision to just reiterate the evidence to a new guy to make sure the case was airtight, because obviously you know he would be worried about if he filed charges. If they're not airtight they could get overturned on appeal or fall apart in front of the Supreme Court or you know any such matter. And while you know of course I do want someone that thorough and that thoughtful and I'm grateful for that that probably delayed his prosecution by another month or two. So I mean you know Mayor Garland likely had charges almost ready to go. He was just waiting to finalize the information from that search warrant so they could get that ready to go, because they would look like that investigation into the classified documents and the instruction that was still continuing right up until the indictment came out. So you know, with the the need to crime fraud, accept Trump's like all that shit. We talked about this previously, but anyway, yeah. So, speaking of which, what Mayor Garland is doing behind the scenes, like you know, I can't speak to unless there is some public movement by the Justice Department.

Speaker 1: 21:10

And we actually had that in a surprise revelation where the FBI searched the home or some kind of ranch or something like 100 acres of Dimitri Soms. Now, if you're not familiar with who that is, you probably haven't read the Mueller report. I'll just say that there. So, after the Mueller investigation concluded and Bill Barr a lot about the content. So one of the key figures that we discovered in the Mueller report that just hadn't been mentioned publicly at all was this figure, dimitri Soms. What was the organization he was the head of? I think it was the damn is the DNI, is that it Anyway, largely unimportant. He was a figurehead at this like think tank, political think tank. He's a Russian American who immigrated here, I think in the seventies and set up shop, involved with the numerous political figures and did a lot of business with other Russian Americans. Hence the reason why he had, like a massive ranch, that figure. Also according to the way I understood the Mueller report. According to the way I understood the Mueller report, he was likely connected to Russian intelligence, if not an agent himself. But Mueller couldn't prove direct connections to Russian intelligence and also couldn't directly prove that Dmitry Soms committed a crime. But there were numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and him, likely some form of coordination between Soms and the Russian government and their efforts to help Trump win the 2016 election. But because Mueller was tasked with just proving criminality and not counterintelligence like, we don't know what happened to the counterintelligence portion in the investigation, but as far as the election was concerned, they couldn't prove any crimes, or at least they weren't given enough time to, because Bill Barr shut the investigation down.

Speaker 1: 23:15

But you know, I've been wondering for a long time where did that guy go Like? Where did that guy go Like? Where did that investigation go? Kassam's eventually packed up, headed back to Russia, you know, rekindled his relationships with Soviet intelligence. I think he got a job on, you know, a job speaking on Russia Today. You know all kinds of perks associated with you know a successful counterintelligence campaign. When you go back home, much like Maria Butina, who was also connected to Dmitry Soms, which is also extraordinarily strange had some kind of insight in his relationships Hunter Biden's relationships in Ukraine, his business relationships saying he took a bribe. Well, the guy who fed him that information was also a Russian agent. And guess who? That Russian agent was connected to Dmitry Sam. So it's a small world, right.

Speaker 1: 24:18

So I've been wondering where the counterintelligence investigation go Like. Did they just let this guy run wild? Well, apparently they've been keeping tabs on him this entire time. While, yes, they couldn't prove that he committed any crimes, I'm assuming that they picked up some information on you know communications between him and other Russian agents other Russian agents and it resulted in a search warrant being executed on his house. Who knows what the fuck they found, but I would imagine if it's connected to the 2024 presidential campaign and they want to tie up Lewis ends, look. So DOJ has this policy. Where you don't make any overt invent, take any overt investigatory steps 60 days before and I'm sorry, I'm boring you to death where you don't make any overt, take any overt investigatory steps 60 days before. I'm sorry, I'm boring you to death. I know it's a lot right.

Speaker 4: 25:09

So DOJ has this policy where you practically don't take To our listeners, who know it's almost midnight where I am. Every week the same.

Speaker 1: 25:18

She's an East Coast girl and we start her late. My bad yo. But so DOJ won't indict or take any overt investigative steps that can affect a political campaign 60 days before an election. Now it's not like a law but it's a policy. But of course you can make exceptions, I'm sure. But if they were, whatever evidence they recovered from psalms if they want to put that to use here, I think we're what 80 days out.

Speaker 3: 25:45

So we've got like 77.

Speaker 4: 25:47

So they're not recovering new evidence. What you just said to me is like go get, don't go keep, like they can't continue their previous investigations.

Speaker 1: 25:56

No. So what? I'm? With this search warrant Right, they got evidence. With this search warrant right, they got evidence. They have some kind of information that gives them probable cause to believe there's evidence they could prove there was a commission of a crime at the crime scene and that evidence has to be relatively fresh for them to execute that search warrant. And whatever evidence they recovered At his house I'm assuming if it's related to the 2024 election or the Trump campaign or any kind of Republican candidate they've got about 17 days left if they want to file charges in such a way that it could potentially affect the election, if they want to stay in line with the DOJ policy.

Speaker 1: 26:37

Just just keep that in mind. So you know, mark this day on calendar and then, two weeks from well, look at this date on the calendar. Two weeks from now, mark that day and if you see some strange shenanigans coming from Republicans anywhere in Congress on the Trump campaign, you'll know something is up and something big might be coming. Also, before we get out of here. So we were highlighting earlier, before we started recording, how Trump basically stole the song from so lame, he is so lame.

Speaker 1: 27:22

Such a loser. He took Beyonce's song Freedom featuring Kendrick Lamar and used it for his campaign, even though she specifically only gave Kamala Harris permission to use the song. I mean, trump is the total opposite of everything that song stands for. Trump is the total opposite of everything that song stands for. But it's also ironic because Kendrick Lamar is also the opposite of everything Trump stands for. So, again, if you've been keeping track with the Kendrick Drake beef and the resolution of that, or at least so far, I wouldn't say that Drake is Trump in terms of like what Trump means to American culture versus what Drake means to American culture.

Speaker 1: 28:12

But you know some of the ways Drake kicks it not healthy for the music industry and if you love rap music, like I do, definitely not helpful for rap music, even though he stayed on top of the industry for so long. And then on the flip side, you've got a figure like Kendrick Lamar who thought, you know, while Drake is out here making music for the kids to bop to, he thought he was going to change the world with his music. I mean, you know as naive as that is with his music, I mean you know as naive as that is, but you could take.

Speaker 1: 28:47

Oh, Hotline Bling.

Speaker 3: 28:48

No, no, no, no, no, no, no no. Kendrick Lamar, not Drake.

Speaker 1: 28:51

Oh, okay, okay, it's funny. You say that because one of the lines of attack that Lamar and Kendrick took in talking about Drake in the middle of the battle when he was clearly losing, he was like you ain't going to see Sly Joe out of this one, which is hilarious because it's also I mean, I don't know if you guys know who Joe Budden is a lot in terms of rap, a lot less successful than Kendrick and Drake, but just extraordinarily as extraordinarily talented as both of those, just in terms of writing lyrics, and he kind of it was a play off of what Joe Budden said about Drake and the song. But anyway, it's extraordinarily ironic because some of the ways in which Trump is trapped in this downward spiral that he can't get out of, because of the switch from Kamala Harris or from Biden to Harris and what Harris stands for, in the way she has the support of the people and the culture specifically, it's extraordinarily reminiscent to what Kendrick Lamar was talking about in his attack on Drake. Right, he was basically saying you know, look at, look at this dude. Like where he was born, how he grew up, he don't have the same shared experiences as we do. Like he comes with all of this baggage comes to the United States to try and capitalize on the culture while not being a part of it. You know, uses Houston, uses Atlanta, uses Miami, uses LA, and the clout from all of these people who have these lived experiences.

Speaker 1: 30:37

Now, I'm not saying Drake is a vulture, but the way Kendrick referred to him was basically a culture vulture, and that definitely applies to Trump, in the same way that, like you know, look at the way he tries to appeal to black votes, like hats, shoes. It's definitely reminiscent, in the same sense that, like the way that, you know, drake grew up and wasn't considered a part of the community. Trump definitely isn't and that's why. That's why there's been such an outpouring of support for Kamala Harris and such like. A lackluster performance from Trump once he sees that the response for Harris is genuine and deep and all of his supporters and his support is, you know, fraudulent and shallow. But before we get out of here, vibes, check real quick.

Speaker 3: 31:41

Ty, how you feeling about the state of the Harris campaign Super, super enthusiastic since the convention started. She is like doing numbers, like gangbusters. The enthusiasm is building and I think that this convention has only elevated her because even people on fox news was like that roll call was dope, like they can't, like they. Even some people are like there's nothing that they can say and I think that even like before, I think on the first night they like they weren't carrying it or whatever. But after the first night, then the second night, then you've got every major outlet carrying it and as much as Fox is trying to to spin it, it's getting so much momentum and it is spreading that it is infecting everybody and people are being reminded of that feeling and somebody had said something that is so true and they were like, for a lot of these younger people, their only experiences with Trump over the last however many years and as far as politics go, so they don't know that feeling that those of us old enough to remember 2008.

Speaker 3: 32:56

Yeah, you know, when he got elected and I watched this tick, tock and this, this young lady she said that was definitely a movement in a moment. But the difference with but it was centered around Obama, solely Obama. And she said Harris is different because she is elevating the Josh Shapiro's, the Walsh's, the Gretchen Whitmer's, the Newsom's. She's bringing a whole slew of people up with her and and that energy is vibing through them too and they're taking that back to their constituents and their states. Like it was centered around Obama, but Harris is is is is lifting up a whole bunch of people. Not just it's not just centered around her. This energy is a whole vibe, like she's the party.

Speaker 1: 33:44

It's just like what Kendrick was saying she bringing a culture with him. I mean, you know, in this, in this sense, is the Democratic Party culture not necessarily like hip hop, black culture, but yeah, she's, she's bringing all this. And this is another thing the Republicans don't have. They don't have a bench for the stars, like their entire party is a pulled cult of personality. That's like it's centered around one person yeah, and then harris.

Speaker 1: 34:12

It's like the total opposite, where trump is trying to dominate the people and harris and her campaign and the democratic party are taking the energy from the people and delivering it to the rest of the masses. Carol, how are you feeling?

Speaker 4: 34:33

Yeah, like what you were saying, kamala elevates other people and, as a result, you can see all the new. I mean it's great to see all the new ideas being put in the spotlight, new people, new ideas and it's great to see. You know, they obviously feel the same for her and they showed up for her. Like d, it wasn't just that we got better people, but it was like a non-stop. They barely took a break during the dnc coverage to.

Speaker 1: 35:04

There's like a non-stop a-lister speech yeah, star after star, it was like if the star spangled banner were a party, it would be the democratic party, because there's all them stars, yeah, yeah it's crazy that wins elections, but it it shows how enthusiastic people are and hopefully it draws um people from different pools from you know that's absolutely true yeah, this convention is not going to win the election, but it is like getting the ball rolling, even more so in ways that just announcing her candidacy, candidacy and and so on of the nomination couldn't, because, I mean, it's just, it is what it is, that's how these conventions work, but it's like a.

Speaker 1: 35:47

It's the chance to create all of this content to send out to the masses, especially now in short form content. But even people who don't like pay attention to, like you know, political tiktok or whatever you know. You'll hear your favorite podcasters talking about it, or or your favorite, I mean, I don't know how much like the kids are streaming these days talking about politics, but Kamala Harris is a superstar and has a level of crossover appeal that, like you said, we haven't seen since Obama, and one of the things the DNC and the Harris campaign has that the Trump campaign doesn't is a lot of former Trumpers. So I do find it quite hilarious that they're like dragging out former Trump employees and appointees to speak at the DNC and they've got like conservative judges. You know sharing their support for Kamala Harris, now I don't know how you know sharing their support for kamala harris now I don't know how you know super important like judge ludig is in terms of like convincing the you know 18, 19, 20 year olds to turn out and vote for kamala harris. But it does mean something in republican circles. It's some serious shit. Like that was a dude. You know, the george bush probably would have put on the supreme court if he had the opportunity, and now he's out here endorsing kamala Harris.

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Kamala Harris Shit like that matters. I'm combining words. I'm turning into Chris Cody from Levitara Show, like we were talking about last week. It's her moment. This is a movement. Hopefully we can ride that wave because this is going to be a lot different than just convincing the people who turned out to vote for Joe Biden in 2020 to just show up again. It's just a. It's a different psychological hurdle to get them to vote for even. You know, obviously Harris was on the ticket, but to vote for her at the top of the ticket is just a different psychological hurdle than like voting for the same guy you just voted for last time, who did a pretty decent job, and Ty. Like you were saying, it's funny that she's like Kendrick and Drake in some ways. Like in terms of that, she's got the culture on her side, but in terms of Drake, like she doing Drake numbers. It's incredible. And that concludes this episode of Pardon the Insurrection. Thank you, thank you.