Diddy Almost J6'd Drake

What happens when power, control, and violence collide within the music industry’s most influential figures? This episode takes you into the tumultuous world of Diddy, unveiling his controlling behavior and the dark theories surrounding his relationship with Biggie. We don't shy away from the hard truths, especially drawing comparisons to his possessive treatment of Cassie, providing a raw look at the struggles women face in escaping abusive relationships, particularly when their livelihood is at stake.

Picture this: a star-studded club with Drake on stage, Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Diddy in the audience. Things heat up when Diddy throws a drink on Kendrick Lamar, inciting a brawl with J Cole. We break down this wild night and the ongoing beef among hip-hop's big three: Drake, Kendrick Lamar, and J Cole. Switching gears, we dissect Trump’s controversial post on True Social against Taylor Swift, sparking backlash from her millions of fans and wreaking havoc on True Social’s stock. 

From the rap scene to the political arena, we draw striking parallels. We analyze a recent debate where Kamala Harris trounced Trump and compare her strategic moves to Kendrick Lamar’s tactical outmaneuvering of Drake. We explore how Harris, a half Black, half Indian woman, positions Trump as an out-of-touch outsider, echoing Kendrick’s mastery in the rap game. This episode promises an enthralling blend of music, politics, and power dynamics that will leave you thinking long after the credits roll.

Chapters

• 0:05 Diddy's Controlling Behavior and Violent Outbursts
• 14:48 Diddy's Unbelievable Behavior and Outbursts
• 19:55 Trump's Controversy and Lamar's Super Bowl
• 36:46 Strategic Victories in Politics and Music

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:05

so in terms of Diddy being a jealous ex and like we're going into super, you know deep, dark reddit conspiracy theory level land here. Uh, there's been lots of questions about Diddy's sexual sexuality over the years and again, you no one on this podcast really cares about your sexual preferences. You can suck all the dicks you want. If you're a guy, we don't care. But there were lots of rumors over the course of the years about, you know, diddy's preferences for men and if you've been keeping up with current affairs about these freak offs, you know you might be aware of some rumors in that regard. But it's entirely possible that biggie's death wasn't actually related to the rat beef and it might have been more related to the possibility that biggie was trying to leave diddy's label. Uh, but um, in terms of where their relationship was, personally, you you might call it a breakup.

Speaker 2: 1:12

It's no, I get that it's entirely.

Speaker 1: 1:14

I get that, I'm down, no, that makes a whole hell of a lot of sense it is entirely possible that, much like when Cassie was trying to flee the hotel room and Diddy got super violent, biggie trying to flee Diddy resulted in extraordinarily violent, extraordinary violence and, like I, have an instance of a clip that might make you wonder if some of those rumors may be accurate you wonder if some of those rumors may be accurate.

Speaker 2: 1:55

I don't think people realize like how young we were, you know. So we're actually like kids in this multi-billion dollar industry.

Speaker 1: 2:00

Now, I personally don't see anything extraordinarily unusual about two men expressing their affection for each other in terms of, you know, verbally saying I love you man. You know, I got a couple of male friends and I'm fine saying I love you bro, but on the other hand, I typically don't rub my face on a man's hand and tell him how soft his skin is. That's a, that's a level of intimacy between two men that I'm not familiar with, like I, I don't, I don't know any. I mean, maybe they're straight guys to kick it like that. I'm I don't know.

Speaker 2: 2:32

But um, just what, from what we know about diddy's behavior in terms of his possessiveness over his romantic no that you mentioning that, but that is exactly what it was with Cassie, like when he did that shit, like on motherfucking car with Kid Cudi, but it was like the you ain't leaving me, bitch Like vibe.

Speaker 1: 3:03

Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 3:04

Yeah, like it was that type of vibe. And then when I was listening to don richards, um and what she was, like the control that he had over those in his circle, the girls, and she's like you know, I would see these girls and I could see like their helplessness, like like I can see their helplessness like not having a way out, like you know. But she was like I was also scared and it took her. Daddy, ain't nobody got no fucking mood like a black motherfucking daddy.

Speaker 1: 4:01

But yeah, she had to have help to get out of that, and so I meant to talk about this. Um. But so, in terms of like, please, generally speaking, do not judge women who find themselves in these situations like. This is like a grease slide by these extraordinarily powerful, manipulative people typically, or even just like the average abusive man who exhibits some of these characteristics just on a smaller scale. Like you get roped in and you think it's one thing, and then you're infested and it like you get the like you the carpets pulled out from under you. You end up in this situation, especially when you're financially dependent, and you're so. Especially in terms of cassie here, if you're not familiar with her original record deal with bad boy. It was a 10 album deal. Like, if you know anything about how the music industry works, like 10 albums, that is a contract you're never going to escape it's bananas.

Speaker 2: 5:05

That is fucking crazy. 10 fucking albums like that, yeah 10.

Speaker 1: 5:11

So, like in terms, it's not totally unheard of, Like there have been numerous instances of artists signing these crazy long deals knowing that they would probably just be on that label for life, that's not totally crazy. But if you think of it in terms of like you know Cassie was young, she was. I think she was a teenager early twenties, yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:36

Like 18, 19 years old, yeah, and Diddy was in his thirties, late thirties at the time. Like, if you look at Diddy's behavior and you understand how he operates and that's the way they started off their relationship, then you totally can understand how Diddy's whole angle was. I'm going to do everything in my power to control Cassie and we're going to start it off on on the business tip and it's going to translate over into the relationship and expand even further with the sex parties and and basically renting her out to male sex workers and all this crazy.

Speaker 1: 6:13

I can't yeah, no, I'm sorry anyway. Um so, but just generally speaking, what the point I wanted to make is whatever judgments you may have about women who end up in these situations and don't leave, assume first that they can't, especially it's my chicken breast.

Speaker 1: 6:34

It looks delicious. Yeah, assume that they can't, especially in situations where violence is involved or their careers are on the line, because how would you like it if your career was dependent on sucking some dude's dick? Um, so, also in terms of that chicken's making me hungry, yeah, uh. So also in terms of diddy's crazy behavior. There was this one instance you may or may not be aware of this incident and, ty, you got to hold your mic up when you're talking because we can't hear you, just in case you want to get your shit off. So there was an incident where Diddy assaulted Drake outside of a hotel. Supposedly Supposedly it's caught on camera. Maybe we'll get that footage one day, maybe we will not, but, uh, I'm not entirely sure what they were arguing over and potentially, um, you know a song that may or may not have been given to drake by diddy or, according to diddy, may have been stolen regardless. Uh, just the fact that. So at this time, it's been about a that. So, at this time, it's been about a decade now, but at this time, drake was still one of the biggest artists in the world, if not, like you know, the most prominent rap artist and for Diddy to be out here whooping Drake's ass is bonkers dog Like. It's crazy so, but it goes beyond that. So around this time, um, uh, drake featured on a song. So around this time, drake featured on a song by the artist the game, famously from g unit, uh, interscope. You know work with dr dre, prominently, an extraordinary, yeah, an extraordinarily popular west coast artist. Uh, the song was entitled 100, uh.

Speaker 1: 8:37

And for a video shoot. Dreg was supposed to fly into la and perform the video shoot but he got spooked for a couple of reasons. Now, one numerous people. Okay, that's an interesting shot, it is not Tuesday but we'll take them anyway. So for one, numerous people at the video shoot were armed with firearms and you know the life that Drake leads is not nearly as gangster as he makes it out to be on occasion. And he was like yo I am up out of here to the point where I think Game had to go like track him down and bring him back to the shoot. He was like dog, these is my guys. I got you, if I say you, good in LA because you know, despite what you think about some rappers, there are other rappers who are extraordinarily well connected to the street life. But you know, game is like in my city, especially around this time. He's like if I say you good, you, sir, are good, it's nothing to worry about.

Speaker 1: 9:41

But also, given the interaction with Diddy, it's entirely possible that Diddy may or may not have been calling around to put a hit out on Drake. Now if you think that sounds crazy, let me explain to you how ridiculous is this is. This is almost like if simon cowell whooped taylor swift ass and then was trying to put a hit out on taylor swift. This is like that level of you know not, it's not a, it's not a totally 100 parallel in that regard, but it's something similar to that level of. Just imagine if you find out, you know, one of the most popular producers in the music industry put their hands on Taylor Swift and then tried to have him killed Even what we saw with Kid Cudi's car. It's entirely feasible.

Speaker 2: 10:41

That is so fucking wild, it's wild.

Speaker 1: 10:44

It don't make no sense like this, like this dude ain't got no impulse control. You're trying to kill drake after, after his rumors, are you floating around about you trying to kill tupac and biggie and you go, man like you. Hey man, you can't even take all our favorite artists from you trying to kill kid cuddy?

Speaker 1: 11:02

Yeah well that's like no offense to Kid Cudi, but like if Kid Cudi did blow up in a car. I mean it would have been sad but we wouldn't have been tripping. You'd be like, damn, that's tough, all right. So what new music has dropped to this incident between Drake and Diddy, where there was potentially an offer put on Drake's head? You can listen to the song 100 by the game featuring Drake, but also I will just read you the lyrics right here Now. I would imagine, if you're listening to this podcast because you follow me on Twitter, I would assume that nine out of 10 of you are white. I'm aware of what my audience is and the purpose that I serve on that platform. I would just like to warn you in advance I do listen to rap music. I'm blackity black. I'm, like you know, black as black, and I will be speaking in a form of English that I like to refer to as niggas here. So, and this is the first verse, this is the game, and he is speaking about an interaction that he had with, possibly, individuals connected to P Diddy here. So so the beginning of the song, actually the introduction, is other night at your crib it was, like me, black 40 OB. These are individuals connected to game and and Drake. We're just sitting there talking about life, playing some beats, but I forgot to tell you one thing. And then the first verse begins niggas called me to set you up, want me to come and wet you up because you were out of town. Nigga, like biggie, heard about the shit with diddy, so I came through to vest you up, and that is a. That is alluding to whatever the situation was between drake and diddy at the time. Uh, and and diddy being extraordinarily violent here, possibly putting out a, a hit on Drake as he was flying out to LA. So he then proceeds to say so I came through to vest you up and I got a vest for 40, a vest for hush, a vest for every nigga on an owl, with an owl on his chest and what? And that is a reference to Drake's label OVO, of which the mascot is an owl, if you're not familiar with that. But yeah, that's true, it's not better than this game song. That's how crazy Diddy is. That game is rapping about diddy trying to kill drake. That's how crazy it is. That's wild. Um, and I'm not. I know if you like, normally, if you're listening to this podcast like. I wonder what this has to do with politics. It's extraordinarily tangentially related. Huh, you know, I don't know what the connection is. I would assume that, outside of sports, the only two areas of life in which it is possibly well, you know, in front of a national audience, on the national stage, a part of your doing your job involves you being in a verbal altercation with your opponent. In a verbal altercation with your opponent, outside of, possibly, sports, I think the only areas in which that exists are specifically, rap, music and politics, as we just saw on the debate stage just a week ago Yet another instance of Diddy's insanity, of Diddy's insanity.

Speaker 1: 14:48

It's been alluded to that, at a club, some kind of party, where Drake was performing and there were a number of prominent individuals at the event, specifically Jay-Z and Beyonce at one table, there's another table where Diddy was sitting and a number of other individuals.

Speaker 1: 15:11

There was this song called Control, put out by Kendrick Lamar over a decade ago, where he referenced a number of names in the music industry, specifically, you know, popular rappers and in such, including Diddy, and Diddy was not pleased by this, including Diddy, and Diddy was not pleased by this and at this particular outing, he proceeded to pour a drink on Kendrick Lamar, which is just fucking crazy.

Speaker 1: 15:38

Yeah, I don't know what he was thinking there, but also present, ironically enough, given if you're familiar with the recent beef between the three artists Drake, kendrick Lamar and J Cole of, of which j cole bowed out at the time uh, they were seemingly friends. J cole stepped in, uh, and it apparently escalated into some kind of physical altercation between j cole and diddy over this pouring of a drink on kendrick lamar, which is also fucking crazy. Why are you out here pouring, despite murdering Drake? At least musically, kendrick Lamar is one of the nicest possible dudes, and that you're out here pouring on a drink on this dude is bonkers. But also that you're getting in a fight with J Cole is crazy dog. J Cole is crazy dog and J Cole.

Speaker 2: 16:34

He is a racist. Like I can't even, like I fucking cut for his ass like yeah again.

Speaker 1: 16:43

So if you like rap music, you might have commonly heard J Cole and he is like collab with Dreamville yeah, that's his that is dreamville is his record label.

Speaker 1: 16:55

Um, so if you're familiar with rap music, you might have commonly were heard heard of drake, kendrick and cole being referred to as the big three. Uh, it wasn't necessarily this way at the time, but with their continued level of musical excellence and dominance, although I guess fans of each of those might not necessarily feel that way about the other artists. But that aside, that diddy is out here whooping jay cole's ass in the club, it's like whoa, it's totally hey after. And you try to kill drake, like what is like. This dude is out of control, um, but keeping it in the music lane.

Speaker 1: 17:37

So the other day, sunday, uh, I was, I was made aware on the social media platforms that that trump had possibly engaged in some political suicide on his platform True Social, which, by the way, I think is now trading at $15 a share.

Speaker 1: 17:56

So if you do happen to own some True Social stock, I would suggest you go ahead and sell it now, because, as of Friday, trump will be eligible to sell his shares, which will completely tank the value of the rest of the stock price. So you might as well get out now while the getting's good. Before it's not worth anything. I mean, I think at this point if he does even try and sell a massive amount of his shares if there's any buyers available it will likely tank the stock price before he can get a significant amount of money out of the stock. I think at this point he's got like close to maybe close to $2 dollars worth of shares at their current value, maybe less. I do believe that if he attempts to even sell just a couple hundred million dollars worth of shares that will completely plummet the stock price. But I mean considering he's put literally no money in it.

Speaker 2: 18:46

And it's all.

Speaker 1: 18:47

It's all profit yeah it's all profit, even though, upon going public, he had close to six billion dollars or so uh, worth of shares when it was trading at 70 80 dollars anyway. So sunday on, true social trump decided to make the brilliant decision of pissing off nearly half the women on planet earth by announcing on his platform that he hates Taylor Swift. What, the fuck what the Like.

Speaker 2: 19:18

You wake up and you're running from prison and of all the things that you could say, I hate Taylor Swift, okay.

Speaker 1: 19:30

I actually don't know if there's anything dumber than one person. I mean, obviously, apart from confessing to crimes, I'd really like, just in terms of you know politics Generally speaking, you just don't hear candidates say they hate another person, let alone the most popular woman on the planet. I it just it makes no sense to me. Um, so I guess trump is still reeling from the debate last week where he got his ass handed to him by column kamala harris and he lost so bad that, in order to direct other people's attention, uh, away from just how devastating that defeat was, he's been trying to stir up controversy, and so the media will focus on that and, like the dangerous game you always play there is, you could always go too far, and I do believe pissing off Taylor Swift's gazillion fans is probably too far, given that upon her.

Speaker 2: 20:27

Pissing off the Swifties, Like yeah, it's not a good move.

Speaker 1: 20:31

No, if you familiar with how like the internet stands, go in terms of popularity, I would rank the Swifties number one, both in terms of dedication to their favorite artists and also number one in terms of choosing violence I choose violence yeah, not now, maybe not literal violence, like they're not going diddy, like they're not, they're probably not going to try okay, no literal violence okay, well, they're not going to plant a car bomb on trump's car, like like diddy did with kid cuddy, but they are vicious and they don't forget shit and like like, going out to taylor swift was crazy.

Speaker 1: 21:19

I had this dude man. He be making some decisions that just make you scratch your head, uh. So taylor swift did endorse Kamala Harris. After the debate, she encouraged numerous people to sign up and I think over the course of two days, something like half a million people registered to vote. Now, that may not necessarily be. Those people may not necessarily vote in November or, even if they do, it's not necessarily guaranteed that they vote for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1: 21:49

But I could see how much like Diddy is extraordinarily vicious with people who cross him in a way that he finds offensive and he lashes out. This is what Trump is doing there. You know, trump and Diddy do have a lot in common, extraordinarily Well. One of them is extraordinarily wealthy, the other pretends to be extraordinarily wealthy. They like to party. They have hung out numerous times. They're seen in numerous photos together, many of which have gone viral over the course of the past couple of days.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Also, this fascination with sex parties, of which allegedly Trump is known to have attended, of which, allegedly, trump is known to have attended, or at least been in the vicinity of, especially in terms of his other good buddy and known pedophile, jeffrey Epstein. So yeah, oh, you know. So one thing I meant to address earlier. So, in terms of, like the sex parties that Diddy was hosting, like the Diddy is, first of all, so Diddy's bail got denied even though he was negotiating to put up something close to 50 million dollars of collateral with other stipulations on his ability to move about and travel and whatnot.

Speaker 1: 23:15

It's incredible that me and I don't want to minimize sex trafficking, but mere sex trafficking allegations in an indictment resulted in Diddy being denied his bond. But trying to overthrow the government doesn't warrant having your bond not in Trump's out free is crazy, it's wild, but that's the thing. When you're a former Republican president of the United States and you're running for office, you just typically have a lot more people invested in protecting you and the legal system and the courts, especially the Supreme Court, which I guess we'll talk about next week. It looks like you're eating something out of your lap. I am. I hope it's good. I hope it's good.

Speaker 2: 24:03

Yeah, it is, yeah, I am, I am.

Speaker 1: 24:07

But so one of the biggest differences between why is, if you're unfamiliar, uh no, if you are familiar with the political rumor mill, you know it's been floating around for years and years that, much like diddy dc, is also full of drug-fueled sex parties, especially when it concerns the republican party. But you know part of the reason why republicans don't get in trouble for this shit, because one well, largely, despite having drugs present and debaucherous activity, most importantly, they do two things. One, everyone there is engaged in these acts consensually, or at least that's what I understand. And then two, none of the participants fingers crossed are under the age of 18. And that is how, if you want to engage in these activities, that's how you do it. You find willing people and they're all adults and have the legal capability to consent.

Speaker 1: 25:15

Yeah, but back to that. That's true. Yeah, but that aside, back to trump being insane. I just can't imagine like shitting all over taylor swift. That's that's get of here, dog. I'm not a super Taylor Swift lover. Her music's fine. I think she's talented in some ways and she's definitely an accomplished songwriter. It's not my type of music. A lot of it is a little too milquetoast for me.

Speaker 2: 25:43

You know I saw it was like a headline or whatever. It was like a you know headline or whatever it was like. Oh, independent voters are not like. They want hairs to be specific and I'm like you want her to be specific on issues, but not putting that same onus on trump.

Speaker 1: 26:14

No, you're not undecided, you're fucking unserious like it's always a double standard, don't you like? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 26:25

like so. So what? What? What is it that specific that you want her to say, seriously, no, you're not serious fucking people, I'm not going to give you. I'm not going to give you that like fucking that you want, like I don't get it, you're not. And it pisses me off so much that the mainstream media etc. They're like oh, these like, oh, um, we talk to amer Americans and they want no, so it's only real Americans if they agree with, like Trump or whatever.

Speaker 1: 27:24

I don't even know what they're agreeing with Trump on, because, like you said, what's the last thing Trump's ever been specific about?

Speaker 1: 27:32

Exactly, and I am so fucking tired, I am so fucking tired, I am so tired, I am so disgusted with the narrative that they push in yeah, I got a perfect example like so trump will say this shit like oh, if I had been president, none of these wars and he's speaking about in Israel and also in Ukraine, none of these wars would have started. But if you elect me, I have them over in like 48 hours. And no one ever asked a follow up question like well, how specifically will you do that? Like well, how specifically will you do that? Yes, exactly. Or or he'd be like oh, biden caused all this massive inflation, even though he can't explain how. And also, it's like a global phenomenon, it's not affecting just the united states, it's affecting every country. But then no one will ever ask him well, how specifically do you plan to address the inflation if you're reelected and force him to give a specific answer?

Speaker 2: 28:38

Yes, yes, and he'd just be saying shit.

Speaker 1: 28:42

It never makes any sense, it's just I don't even want to, I'm tired of him. So also so in terms of back to more music industry related topic here. So Kendrick Lamar, who we were referencing earlier here, got offered the opportunity to perform at the Super Bowl. And you know, given his recent track record here over the past six months, seven months, he is currently the top artist in terms of hip hop and rap. So it's not entirely surprising Also given the fact that he dispatched Drake in a battle of wits and lyrical ability, that he would be offered the opportunity to perform at the Super Bowl. And it's been a lot of controversy about this issue, just in terms of, you know, the industry fans, the music industry fans, because the Super Bowl is being held in Los, rather in New Orleans, in 2025, in February, and a lot of people were under the assumption that because it was being held in Louisiana, they would go the hometown route. And in terms of Jay-Z taking control of the creative aspect of putting on a Super Bowl show performance, they assumed the nod would go to one, lil Wayne.

Speaker 1: 30:10

Now that the Super Bowl has been offered to Kendrick Lamar, a lot of people are looking at that as a snub, and I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. One me personally. I be loving me some Lil Wayne, one of the best rappers ever. But in terms of musical catalog, typically what you want at the Super Bowl is something that's accessible for a lot of people. Accessible for a lot of people and also, of well, just in terms of little wayne's music, a lot of it is extraordinarily raunchy and, while I may approve of that, it might not be the right audience at the super bowl for the super bowl yeah, no exactly, and we talked about this, and I love Lil Wayne.

Speaker 2: 30:56

He's my guy. As you said, his catalog is on fleek. Yes, it is.

Speaker 1: 31:03

It's ridiculously good, but also it might not be the proper fit. And? But there's also another thing. So this idea of like the hometown hero performing at the Super Bowl has never been the case. You can go, look at every Super Bowl over the course of the past 30 years and typically it never happens. We had the one exception when the Super Bowl was in LA and they brought out basically all of the West Coast hip hop, r&b industry to perform, which included Kendrick Lamar to perform, which included Kendrick Lamar. That's like the lone exception.

Speaker 1: 31:35

Typically, what you have is these acts that are past their peak in terms of putting out new and popular music, but they have a catalog that people are familiar with, songs that people will recognize when they're being played and can sing along to, and, generally speaking, mostly milquetoast. Now you had these rare occasions, some exceptions to the rule. We'll say michael jackson, uh, prince, and even, once upon a time, justin timberlake and, uh, janet jackson, but of course, we all saw what happened there and it ended janet jackson's, I mean in terms of like being at the top of the charts.

Speaker 1: 32:17

I don't even I don't even want to go. Yeah, we don't need to get into that, but I'm just saying that was the one instance over the course of like 20 year stretch, from the 90s to the early 2000s, where they took a gamble on the hottest artists and they were like we ain't touching that stuff. Yeah, um, yeah. So this is new, especially over the course of the past four years, where the artists have gotten a little bit more modern in terms of where they are in popularity. Um, but it's also been reported, so not necessarily reported.

Speaker 1: 32:50

There have been instances of people familiar with Drake's camp and Jay-Z's camp, and some are suggesting that Drake's been offered the Super Bowl multiple times over the course of the past few years but declined, and they're saying that this snub of Lil Wayne is also related to some possible well, just the fact that there has been reported to be some issues between not only Lil Wayne and Jay-Z over the years, but also Drake and Jay-Z, and I have to shoot that down in terms of well. So, first of all, jay-z provides numerous features for Drake, even to this day.

Speaker 2: 33:36

That's true.

Speaker 1: 33:37

So I would assume, at least in terms of their business relationship, they are on good terms, despite whatever they might have going personally. We might can talk about this on another episode but there is also the entire possibility of their relationship is much like Drake and Kanye's, where they hate each other but they still work together on occasion. But I would say in terms of. So you have some people suggesting Drake's been offered the Super Bowl and declined it, and other people suggesting he's never been offered and I would say in all likelihood it's possible that he's been offered or been in talks to possibly appear at the Super Bowl, but for various reasons timing issues, maybe it just didn't work out so they moved on to other potential artists and it sounds crazy, but you have to understand a Super Bowl halftime performance. It is a commitment. That shit is like marriage.

Speaker 2: 34:34

That is true.

Speaker 1: 34:35

I mean like at least for like a few months. Like you, you can't get that annulled, you're going to have to get a divorce. So, like, in terms of preparing that kind of show for that level of show, for that kind of platform, you know it's at minimum four to five months of commitment and preparation and planning and rehearsals and scheduling and in booking other acts and bands and dancers and choreography and it's it's. It is an extraordinary, extraordinarily, um, thorough commitment. Yes, and like, if you're one of I mean if you're extraordinarily popular artists, like, what the super bowl provides you as an artist, if you're active, may not necessarily be worth it to you at that point in time when you're out touring or you have other business interests or conflicts because you gotta you really gotta mark off the calendar for this.

Speaker 1: 35:34

So the idea that maybe and Drake is one of these artists up there, maybe not Taylor Swift, but he's in that echelon, along with the other handful of people, including Kendrick Lamar here, that might have had the opportunity if they were available to do the show and decline for various reasons Also, you don't get paid right to do the show and decline for various reasons Also, you don't get paid right. So the Super Bowl, the NFL. They don't pay the artists to perform but they do provide them a budget. But much like with the Weeknd when he did his show, because the requirements to do that level of show were outside of the budget the NFL provided he had to come up with the money on top of that out of his own pocket. So that might also be another issue. But I would also say we don't have any record of Taylor Swift being offered a Super Bowl in declining. But I absolutely get like what world do you think we're living in where Taylor Swift ain't been offered a Super?

Speaker 2: 36:31

Bowl. God, it's true, yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:33

God is true. Yeah, so it's entirely possible that, like, despite what, what's been reported, that maybe he's been offered, maybe he declined, maybe he hasn't been offered, I don't know. You can believe whatever you want to for yourself, but it is what it is. But where this comes in with Kendrick Lamar, um, so maybe you missed it, but given that Drake is one of the biggest artists of the world in the world right now, uh, he entered a rap beef, was lured into a rap beef with kendrick lamar, famously from the west coast, and he thoroughly lost and was dispatched and defeated. And you know, just, despite your fandom of one artist or the other, or both or none, it was extraordinarily entertaining. I found it fascinating. I've actually never, I mean, I haven't listened to more rap music than I have in, like, in a decade in this last six months span because of it. It's extraordinarily rewarding for me. But I do find it funny.

Speaker 1: 37:36

That and how this relates to politics is that you know, in terms of outwitting and outdueling your opponent, like, to the victor, go the spoils Right. You know, if you're a Drake fan, you're like oh man, why didn't Drake get the offer to the Super Bowl? Well, he should have won the beef Right. And how this relates to politics is in terms of what we just saw the debate here last week. If you take your opponent seriously and you show up and do the work and prepare and you dispatch your opponent, you are rewarded by the public in terms of in politics, polling, support, money, endorsements, and it's been working out extraordinarily well for Kamala Harris. And if you think about it, the strategy that Kendrick Lamar used to dispatch Drake in the first place by understanding, one, his psychology, two, his habits and tendencies, and three, like understanding his thought processes the strategy that he used was basically to take away his superpowers, the things that he relied on the most, turn them against him and then have millions of people think of him as the other Right.

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So with Not Like Us, the whole idea, I mean it's in the title of the song, it's in the lyrics. That guy, he ain't like you and me. Now what's extraordinarily amazing about how that applies to the Kamala Harris campaign is their entire strategy from the rollout is to get the entire world looking at Trump and be like that dude right there ain't like you and me, if you think about it. That's super incredible because Kamala Harris is a half black, half Indian woman who's the son of immigrants, and Trump is an old white dude. And for most of America to look at the black brown lady and be like you, right, that dude ain't like us. That's fucking incredible. And that concludes this episode of Pardon the Interaction.