Pardon The Insurrection
Where we discuss the ongoing Congressional and criminal investigations of the January 6 coup orchestrated by the former President. And because insurrection wasn't enough, we'll also cover the Department of Justice espionage investigation, investigations relating to other members of Congress, and more. Don't worry, we're not handing out any pardons.
Pardon The Insurrection
The GOP Is On The Verge Of Death
What if the rhetoric at political rallies could spark more than just controversy? In our latest episode, we explore the alarming landscape of recent Trump rallies, where misogynistic comments about Kamala Harris receive troubling approval and the specter of political violence looms large. We question the normalization of such rhetoric by drawing parallels with historical figures and dive into the disturbing undercurrents that threaten to redefine political discourse in America. Prepare to be both intrigued and concerned as we unpack the potential implications for the future of the Republican Party, which is deeply entwined with Donald Trump and faces uncertain challenges ahead.
Join us as we navigate the intricate dynamics of a party under strain, plagued by legal battles and financial burdens, all while considering the emotional stakes for Trump supporters who see their identity as tied to his victories. We delve into the potential aftermath of a Trump loss, exploring whether the party will pivot or collapse, much like post-Bush years. The conversation further examines Project 2025, a plan to overhaul the federal government with far-reaching consequences. In this politically charged atmosphere, we also take a lighter look at the cultural intersections of sports and politics, revealing how athletes and franchise owners grapple with political affiliations and public opinion.
The road to Election Day holds many twists, and our discussion doesn't shy away from exploring them. We analyze polling trends and the significant implications of Kamala Harris's potential electoral success against Trump, underscoring the importance of voter turnout, especially in key swing states. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt call to action, urging listeners to seize the moment and make history by voting in a transformative election. Whether you're navigating personal challenges in a politically tumultuous climate or eager to witness a historic presidential race, this episode offers a compelling mix of analysis, reflection, and encouragement.
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so trump held a rally in which he was making comments about kamala harris having never worked at mcdonald's, and one of the attendees at the rally just engaged in some utter misogyny and and trump approved of it. In case you were wondering the quality of the Republican candidate for president here it is, as we were saying earlier in the dumpster total garbage.
Speaker 2:They got us into Ukraine. We should have never gone into Ukraine. If I was president, you would have never gone into Ukraine. This is not a charity event. This is an election for the biggest and toughest job in human history. This is not a charity event. This is an election for the biggest and toughest job in human history.
Speaker 1:This is Wait, was that the right video?
Speaker 3:I'm not sure. I can't remember when. All right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's OK, I'll edit that out. So Trump, at a rally, made a comment about Kamala Harris never having worked at McDonald's. An individual from the crowd yelled out that she in fact worked on a corner. That was an allusion to the idea that they professed that Kamala Harris was a prostitute and slapped her way to the top, and Trump said that's amazing.
Speaker 3:He's so gross, I don't. And at a previous rally, like a day or so ago, when he was calling her dumb and then a male in the audience yelled out she's an idiot, he goes. I like this guy. You know he puts on these. Aha, like. I like this guy with his fake voices and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is again. This is coming from the guy who banged his wife on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. I mean just Jesus Christ with this shit. And again, like again. This goes back to the comments Biden made, where he was just talking about the disparaging comments by Kill Tony in regards to Puerto Ricican, saying those comments were garbage, but they blew that out of proportion. But when things like this happen at a trump rally, it's just absolute crickets.
Speaker 1:No one cares no he called her a simpleton, yeah, I was like, and she's like, she's one of the most accomplished women in the country. Uh, just, you know, an accredited lawyer, prosecutor, attorney general, senator. She's run the gamut and she's got multiple degrees. I mean, the woman intellectually is unrivaled and this is. And they just they, they make comments about her. It's so gross, it's disgusting and it is just and it's only because she's a woman. I mean, I guess in terms of trump calling people stupid, like there there are no gender boundaries with that he's not afraid to call anyone remember he did say that he's a smart guy because of his genetics and then he said she's dumb which is also weird because you know his genetics are questionable.
Speaker 1:If you look at his parents and you look at his kids, you're not going to be like, oh, that's the master race there. But again, that's akin to hitler being like, yes, the master race has blonde hair and blue eyes. Hitler's hair was brown.
Speaker 5:I guess that's why he offed himself in the end Is that.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think that's I'm kidding.
Speaker 5:It's a dark joke. It's a dark time.
Speaker 1:But again, in our comparisons of Trump and Hitler, the one good thing Hitler did again was to kill Hitler.
Speaker 5:So in that that regard, we can only hope, uh, that if trump does, I was just playing a best of hitler track by the time he shot himself well, if trump does take up the mantle of bringing upon the fourth right, may he end up in the same position as Hitler did.
Speaker 1:Oh my God man. So, in terms of the possibility of more political violence related to the Trump campaign in a presidential election much like in 2020, when Trump lost and proceeded to engage in a violent coup with the Capitol, on January 6th of 2021, alex Jones says that, after listening to Trump's rally in Pennsylvania, that we should all prepare for civil war.
Speaker 4:You know they're not going to just give up easily after the impeachment and the.
Speaker 4:Russian collusion crap and all the fake indictments and the lawfare. This is common sense crap and all the fake indictments and the lawfare this is common sense. So I'm saying be ready for the civil war conditions and the not certifying it and Carville saying we need an armed uprising against Trump and Trump supporters. I mean these people are going for broke and mainline Republican supporters aren't really ready for this. Trump is starting to get it and was talking about all this just minutes ago. Why?
Speaker 5:does he look like why?
Speaker 4:is he so red?
Speaker 3:Sorry, Ron Perlman. Why does he look like Hellboy? I don't.
Speaker 1:I have absolutely no idea why he looked like a beet, and I usually say that hyperbolicallyically, but his skin is extremely red so if you've ever seen south park, in the episodes where the devil is a character on the show, he, he looks like the devil from south park, just like this, you know, gigantic, fat, hulking idiot. Uh, in all red minus the horns he doesn't have horns that we're aware of that we can see I don't understand.
Speaker 1:I I have no answers. I don't know why he looked like that. It's the same questions I have about, like why trump is dressed up like robert downey jr from tropic thunder with all the black face on, like I don't know what's going on with these guys, but it's are they letting him put his own makeup on or is his makeup artist just a troll like the cameraman?
Speaker 3:I don't I. I need. I have so many questions, I need.
Speaker 1:I I have numerous questions. I don't. I have far fewer answers. I don't have any answers whatsoever, to be frank.
Speaker 1:But yeah, just like again the idea that you know, depending on what happens on Election Day or Election Week, or whatever you want to call it, between Election Day and the results being decided that possibly devolving into violence, that is, generally speaking, an idea that comes from the right and, given that we've already had political violence the last time trump lost an election, uh, you know, I would I would probably say in all honesty, maybe you should take alex jones's advice and be prepared for a possible civil war, depending on the results of the election, because they're not going to take this one lying down right.
Speaker 1:This is basically all or nothing for the republican party. If they win, of course, america is doomed, but if they lose, the republican party is doomed. They're going to have to reassess it because they put all their chips in the in the trump bag. Right they're, they're on like if this is the roulette table, they've got all their money on red and if they lose this, they lose everything. They could potentially end up losing their majority on the Supreme Court, which, would you know, set back their Project 2025 slash Heritage Foundation.
Speaker 3:MAGA is going to lose their fucking mind because, they are all in.
Speaker 3:They've lost friends. They've lost all in. They've lost friends, they've lost family, they've lost jobs. Their entire world has centered around this man and the fact that they were quote unquote on the winning side, the quote unquote winners. He has given them purpose, because these people, they have been miserable for so long but they haven't connected that they were miserable and their lives were not where they wanted them to be because they insisted on voting for the people that kept it that way, which is republicans, and so the only thing they had was owning the libs. So they just said I know I'm starving, but I got to own a lib today.
Speaker 1:You know it's, it's, it's yeah, and trump was the voice for their dis, their displeasure with their circumstances, and the problem for the republican party is like all. So their entire apparatus is now wrapped up in trump. You got laura running the, the rnc, the trump campaign, soaking up all the dollars, spending it on trump's legal fee. So, like the republican party is now broke, if you've noticed, yeah, there are political ads running rampant all across the Internet and even on TV, but in states where they really need to win, they're not able to spend any money to run nearly as many ads as the Biden campaign.
Speaker 3:Well, that's where the dark money comes in. They don't have enough of that Like, like Tim Shee the Montana race and McCormick that race.
Speaker 1:They super PACs are pouring millions of dollars into those campaigns. But again, so, if you think about, like, how tv ads function, like the candidates campaigns get a huge discount and the super packs have to pay full price, and for ads around election season and football and, like you know, season premieres, it, like those ad spots are extraordinarily expensive. So, dollar-for-dollar, they're spending far more than the Democrats and the Harris campaign. It's, it's a it's it's, it's a failure. It's a failure to properly appropriate their dollars in the right way. But again, if Trump loses, they're gonna have to untangle all of this from trump and he's probably going to put up a fight to make sure that that doesn't happen, because politics is the only successful business trump's ever had. But again, if they lose, this will be so. This will be, you know, the 2024 presidential that they lost.
Speaker 1:The 2022 midterms, where they underperformed and didn't recapture the senate. The 2020 election that they lost. The 2022 midterms where they underperformed and didn't recapture the senate. The 2020 election, where they lost everything house, senate, presidency included. And the 2018 midterms, where they lost the house and, and you know, got drilled in such a way that it set up democrats to take the senate in 2020. That's's, you know, six years of elections, the Republicans have lost betting on Trump. No political party has ever really come back from something like that this is their last chance and they're going all in.
Speaker 3:That's why they went ahead and exposed Project 2025. They wanted to get the evangelicals ginned up Like come on, please come out, vote for him.
Speaker 1:This is what we got for you.
Speaker 3:This is going to be our gift to you yeah and speaking of project 2025.
Speaker 1:So, like I know, people are like oh, project 2025, trump wins, they're going to implement. They've already implemented the first step of project 2025 and that was getting heritage foundation approved. Supreme court justices on the supreme court to get a, you know, conservative majority and they pull that off and you've seen what's happened since then. We lost roe v wade. I mean, they've basically granted you know, the next president immunity from criminal actions and who knows?
Speaker 1:chevron, chevron decision chevron deference is gone, Like the ability for the federal government to basically regulate the country. That's been thrown out. Imagine what kind of insane shit they would enable under a second Trump administration. And that was step one. And if Trump gets in they'll just finish the job. But we're already there.
Speaker 3:Mike Johnson said the first hundred days. They're working fast.
Speaker 1:It's going to be full speed, ahead, ahead yeah, they got a plan to gut the federal. Look the federal government they're going to let trump fire every single federal employee, or at least in the executive branch, and they're going to replace them with brown shirts and the supreme court is going to rubber stamp it, because they want executives to have unlimited power anytime a republican is in office.
Speaker 5:And again back because they also don't see what's coming for them. The court also goes eventually well, again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, that's the thing. So anything that could be a potential help to trump is also a potential hindrance, and I'm assuming he's going to eliminate his competition, and that would include the legislative branch and the judicial branch, and that's what that's again, that's what the nazis did when they took power. Once they had control of their own party, they, they eradicated all the dissidents and they took over the media. The courts were next and from there, uh, you know, democracy in germany fell until the end of world war ii, and then some I mean hell, the wall didn't come down until the reagan administration. Um, so, yeah, you know, just expect. Expect the worst if trump wins, but also expect the worst if trump loses, because again, like this, will be the death of the republican party.
Speaker 1:Now, theoretically, I think, if it's, if it's a massive blowout in favor of kamala harris, it might give the party the room to totally reject trump in such a way that that the party's just willing to pivot, the same way they pivoted once george bush left office in 2008. Right, like it's, it's like they erased the bush, the eight years, the bush administration from their memories. It's just like they, they go, they, they skip over that and just go back to Clinton in terms of the way they talk about the White House, so that might give them opportunity to kind of you know rebrand back to the old conservative party of Mitt Romney or whatnot, which would just allow them to continue to do more of the same. But if it's close enough and there are enough people in the Republican Party who feel like I want to continue to stick to Trumpism, but there's also that split that wants a new path forward for the Republican Party, then we get our civil war just inside of the Republican Party, where they spend the next decade fighting it out and destroying themselves, which, honestly, would be the best possible.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, apart from the fact that they might like attack the Capitol again, if it's close enough, that would be the best possible outcome Having the Republican party spend the next decade fighting amongst each other, unable to mount any sort of kind of you know, national campaign or platform or, you know, war between the Republicans and the state parties, allowing Democrats to make some gains in the House, the Senate and state legislatures and governorships all across the country to start trying to undo some of the damage that you know the Trump era republican party gets caused. I mean, uh, you know, I'm hoping that that's the case, but more than anything, it's just important that we make sure these idiots fucking lose. Speaking of idiots here, trump basically offering, offering of the idea that he himself is disqualified to hold office.
Speaker 2:But nothing is more dangerous than to give immense power to a weak and not very smart person. Just not a smart person. We need smart. In fact, I mean, I call for it, but I would love to have it. We should have cognitive tests for anybody that runs for president and vice president. Oh, how about that guy she picked for vice president?
Speaker 1:What a loser. Has he seen the events? No, but yes, obviously it's extraordinarily dangerous to give nearly unlimited power to a moron. And then, well, Trump is the stupid person he's referring to. The inability to look in a mirror there is quite shocking.
Speaker 3:Maybe his teleprompter was actually a mirror.
Speaker 1:Can we talk for a second about the rebrand with the Trump paraphernalia Right? So he's been showing up here lately over the course of the past month Proud Boys, well, yes. So instead of donning the classic red and white make America great again gear, he's now in the black and gold or the white and gold, and you know, obviously, if you're familiar with right wing politics, you know that that is a dog whistle to none other than the Proud Boys, one of the right wing militias that were responsible for planning and executing the attack on the Capitol on January 6th, and, like you know, I don't know what the implication is there, but this is basically the same thing as when he got on stage in 2020 and told the proud boys to stand back and stand by, like it's a clear choice to get away from the red and white.
Speaker 3:Isn't it? Isn't it the Oath Keepers colors too, I swear I thought in their logo it was gold too, because I know they're all black and.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some combination of black, white, gold and it might maybe gray, black and gold.
Speaker 1:So it's just like if you've been paying attention to Trump politics over the course of the past eight years, apart from his blue suit and red tie, the only colors you see him wear, generally speaking, when it's got a political reference to it, is the red and white that's associated with the red and white mega hat. Now, of course, again we had that instance where he was selling the gold sneakers and I kind of noticed that there's, like usually the sneakers he's selling on his website, or red or red and white, or white and red, you know some combination. The the switch to the gold was like hey, man, this is where is this going exactly. He was like this is extraordinarily gaudy, but now that you've seen the flip with the hat, too, like this is where is this going exactly. He was like this is extraordinarily gaudy, but now that you've seen the flip with the hat, too, like this is obviously okay, it's obviously a dog whistle right wing militias it might be a dog whistle to both.
Speaker 3:I'm looking at the oath keepers logo here and there's one where it's the Oath Keepers. It's gold on a white background, like his tie and his shirt.
Speaker 1:And then there's also in the Proud Boys is like yellow and white.
Speaker 3:It's like gold and the black, so it might be to both, and maybe this is his signal saying I'm going to pardon you and those are going to be his soldiers. That is a very real possibility of like hey, hang in there, guys, you're about to get out.
Speaker 5:I guess, it's all possible it's going to be a rough few months. I'm tired.
Speaker 3:We're speculating, but I don't think it's reckless.
Speaker 1:Carol, I didn't say it was reckless.
Speaker 1:Even though I wasn't active on Twitter in 2016, 2017, I did have a Twitter account. I was following what was going on. I was extraordinarily involved with keeping up with, you know, the trump administration and particularly the the russia investigation as led by special counsel robert muller. I and I gotta tell you, after a decade of this, I'm utterly exhausted physically, mentally, emotional, psychologically, spiritually If you believe in spirituality, just in every single way, I imagine, if you're listening to this much like I am, you are just sick of this shit. You want this dude to go away forever, forever. And I got to tell you, if you vote for Kamala Harris and she wins, in all likelihood he might be going away a lot sooner than you think, because so his sentencing coming up yes, his sentencing for the 34 felony, 34 count felony conviction in new york is at the end of sept or end of november, the 26th I believe.
Speaker 1:And a lot of people are saying, you know, just generally speaking, the discourse around that is that no judge is going to send Trump to prison. And I got to tell you, if you look at the pattern of sentencing for you know crimes and convictions in this similar vein in that particular district, motherfuckers go to jail for at least a year or two. So it's possible we could see trump being locked up before inauguration day if he loses this election. Now. If he wins, there's absolutely no way, no matter what that judge decides to do in november, that the supreme court is going to let, uh, any kind of jurisdiction, federal or state imprison trump for any amount of time. They're going to quote unquote postpone his sentencing until after his term and I you know, given what he plans to do with his term if he wins, he ain't leaving the White House alive for good or bad. So you know, in case you were single-issue voter and your single issue was seeing Trump go to jail and never having to see his stupid face again, there's your incentive.
Speaker 1:Uh, we also had um a pretty funny event. You know, trump likes to brag about how he has the largest crowds and he has all the support. You know the this attempt by trump to treat everything as though it's a reality show, because if you project strength and popularity, then people are more inclined to believe that you have the possibility of winning, so therefore they're more motivated to show up and help you out on election day. But you know, as trump was bragging about the crowd, he got fact checked in real time at one of his campaign rallies by the cameraman and it's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2:Nine years we've had the biggest rallies in history of any country and every rally's full. You don't have any seats that are empty. You don't have anything. Yet I mean the one we had today. You missed out Beauty. We could have filled that place up 20 times. I mean that was beautiful. And the virginia did you hear about the virginia rally that was? Glenn yonkin did a great job, the governor of virginia and they had a crowd there.
Speaker 2:That was incredible. And then we came here and we don't want to be late, but it's very hard when you do these things. It's, uh, very hard and you don't mind a little bit. We weren't very late, we weren't very late. We weren't very late, just a few minutes. Just a few minutes, depending on your definition of when it's going to start. You know, we've been doing. I was talking to some of the people. It's sort of you know, in a way it's sad, in a way it's beautiful. I was talking to him and I said you know, this is coming to an end.
Speaker 1:These was talking to him and I said you know this is coming to an end, even if people are leaving in the middle of him singing. I think I'm going to tell my boss that.
Speaker 3:What is your definition of when I was supposed to start, because I had one definition. Hey man, human resources had a different definition, I guess. I don't know, maybe I'll.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see how that goes the fact that the cameraman is doing a better job of fact-checking trump in real time than the media does, even with pre-recorded, you know, video. Kudos to that cameraman. Get that dude a raise. I, he, might, he, I guess. He must be a.
Speaker 2:He's a democratic plant you know he's one of the deep states.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's just so funny that even the cameraman was like hey, wait a second, this is some total bullshit. Carol, how many of his rallies do you watch? Do you watch any of them at all, apart from?
Speaker 5:the clips? No, yeah I understand.
Speaker 1:So I don't typically watch all of them. I try to watch at least every other one for a good 30, 40 minutes just to see what's going on. And again, you know, for the most part it never really changes. Rally to rally. He's talking shit about Democrats. He's talking about how dumb. Kyle.
Speaker 4:Harris is.
Speaker 1:And then he goes on his. Either he does the shark battery thing, or he does the Hannibal Lecter thing, and or both.
Speaker 3:Or the hydrogen cars are going to blow up and you'll be unrecognizable. But it's really funny because the only people he ever points out for his death scenario are women in the audience you know I ain't considered that, but you have you, you that you make a good point.
Speaker 3:That is typically his, his best in his bag, his repertoire, I mean when he danica patrick when she is bragging, like oh, I'm 42 years old, I never voted, but today I voted for trump. And she goes to say rally that night and he's like points her out and puts her in his hydrogen bomb to imagine it.
Speaker 1:Then you go and then you've been murdered, yeah, exploding danica patrick figuratively yeah he did that to marjorie taylor, green yesterday well, no, nothing, no nothing is better than exploding, danica patrick, at your trump rally like or marjorie taylor green I mean, that's well. That's probably more an illusion to the pipe bomber on january 6th, but no. So, cara, do do you know who? Danica Patrick is the NASCAR driver? She's the first woman NASCAR driver, so she recently came out and endorsed I thought it was Formula 1.
Speaker 3:No, that was NASCAR.
Speaker 1:So she recently came out and endorsed Trump, you know saying she was, you know, voting for Trump, whatever. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's something, women or other, and this is. This is funny, because if you understand the history of danica, even being in nascar, like they've basically been calling her a dei hire for a decade.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's the gag and it's like oh so you're?
Speaker 1:you're endorsing the, you know, the political party that fucking hates your guts and wish you never existed and didn't have a job in NASCAR. That's. That's quite ironic there. But yeah, you know, look again. As we said, if Trump supporters aren't garbage, they're stupid. They're stupid uh. So, apart from the cameraman completely destroying trump's claims of him having super packed uh rallies, there was also nick fuentes, noted uh neo-nazi, who's finally come to the light and, amidst the trump campaign, is, in fact, a cult garbage and at the trump rallies they're yelling trash for Trump, trash for Trump.
Speaker 6:And I saw other people. I saw white guys. I saw Hispanic guys. Hispanic guys inside trash cans, jumping out of them with Trump signs, white guys with garbage bags that say trash for Trump 2024. And that was kind of like to me. That was the moment when I realized Trumpism was a cult. That was the moment when I realized liberals are right. That was the moment when I realized it has gone too far. It is Frankenstein's monster. We have created a golem. It is a problem. You know, for years, liberals said it's a cult. You, it is a problem. You know. For years, liberals said it's a cult, you're an occult. And I said where you're going to jail? You're going to jail. It is a cult and we are in it and you are going to jail. That's how I felt about it for the past eight years.
Speaker 5:So I hate the jail part who's going to jail?
Speaker 1:we are democrats yeah, he was saying liberals are going to jail and now he's convinced that we were right and they're called and they're probably going to prison. Uh, but yeah, I hate to say it. I think for the first time in my life I agree with the neo-nazi I'll cut it soon dinner.
Speaker 5:But yes, let's just just be clear that he has come to his senses but surely still still hates Jews and blacks.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, look, I'm not approving of anything Nick Fuentes stands for. This is, like you know, broken clock. It's right Twice a day type of thing Like it'll probably never happen again. In fact, like that he's right once at all is actually kind of disheartening. But again, you know, if you-wing supporter you know nick fuentes, is even down with president trump, he's been one of his most ardent supporters uh, you know I think he was more supporter of the racism, but the garbage bags were just too much though yeah, the diapers didn't do it for him, but with him dressing up his, his white trash on halloween, that was a bridge too far for noted neo-Nazi Dick Fuentes.
Speaker 1:It's incredible. So, apart from you know, just the utter stupidity of the right and conservatives, and the Trumpers specifically, we did have. On a more positive note, we had an interesting development over the course of the week when noted NBA superstar and current LA Laker, lebron James, made a political endorsement.
Speaker 7:It'll be a good day. Everything's kind of silent and I wanted to make sure that it's seen, heard, and heard with force. So, you know, I have a daughter, I have a wife, wife, a mother, you know, and things of that nature she believes in. When it comes to women's rights, when it comes to the future of, you know, my kids, and where I see our country should be, I'm damn sure I'm going the other way.
Speaker 2:What is your experience in 2020 with the NFL? Teach you about politics.
Speaker 7:Show you about politics. Show you about the impact you can have on a very specific way. Well, I mean, it all started with the shut up and dribble, you know thing, obviously, um and uh, to be able to I'm in a position where you can have some influence and, uh, you have a lot of people who you know, who want to be in a position to have influence, to be able to speak outside of their, their realm of sports or, you know, music or movies or whatever it is, whatever the industry is, to be able to have a platform where I was able to gather a lot of men and women to be able to speak out. From that moment and then, more than a vote campaign, obviously an initiative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so last week LeBron, on his Instagram and Twitter and other social media platforms, posted a pro Kamala Harris ad where he basically endorsed Kamala Harris and he was coming out to vote for Kamala Harris and that his supporters should as well. And he was asked about it in the post-game press conference and refused to stand on his comments. When LeBron was asked about it at that press availability event after the game, he explained his political stance.
Speaker 5:I think also the other guy probably just couldn't explain his political stance.
Speaker 3:Not that I'm going to. He looks like a meathead in cell.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, Nick Bosa, I think his political stance is. You probably should ask him where he was on January 6th. Lebron, on the other hand, again, you know, and I've said, you should also probably cover your drink around him.
Speaker 1:So I said this previously, you know again, there's been, you know, for years now, at least since the advent of, you know, trump brand of politics, the right wing and pro-conservative media. Anytime an athlete or you know a public figure comes out in favor of support of you know some positive social stance or political stance, they don't agree with. The obvious retort there, shut up and dribble. But anytime some kind of right-wing athlete does it, then that's when they get celebrated. Um, I'm a fan of you know, regardless of what political stances you say take, I I want every popular athlete to take a political stance, including the owners of these you know sports franchises, because I want to know where you stand. Now they're typically you know the owners and a lot of right-winning or right-leaning athletes and such aren't going to do that because they understand that it could potentially affect their dollars and not willing to stand on the things they believe in.
Speaker 3:I don't want to be walking around with a fucking Bosa jersey, a fucking Aaron Rodgers jersey, a Brett Favre jersey.
Speaker 1:If I'm a Negro and I find out, this is what you think about me, fuck you man, and that's your merch and that right there is why they typically aren't going to come out and do those things, but I wish they did. I would like to know. I would like to know how these people feel. I would like to know like the level.
Speaker 5:I think we should be. It should be trump and less proven kamala right at this point, like if you're not going to say anything, then I'm just going to have to kind of assume.
Speaker 3:You know what, regardless of anybody's stance, I can respect somebody that actually has real conviction in what they believe in and can explain why I may not agree with it, I might think it's gross, but at least I know that you've put some actual thought into it and where the way you feel is coming from your actual feeling on that issue, not just rant, you know, behind on some bandwagon or doing it for clout or just chasing Trumpism, because Trumpism is quote unquote thing right now, like the way Mark Cuban just demolished Dana White on on this interview and he was like and this is why you're wrong, and Dana White, it was crickets he had.
Speaker 3:He couldn't say a motherfucking thing, and that's usually how it goes with Trump people. But you know I mean of course I don't have any respect at all for David Duke and he is a horrible human being. However, he will to the grave, he's gonna take his beliefs with him. He stands firm in what he believes in. But these other people they can't articulate themselves the way that, like LeBron James can, and some of these other players, the way Colin Kaepernick did, and they resent that. You know they want to have that and they're trying to ride on the coattails of this MAGA thing, but they just end up owning themselves and looking like fucking fools.
Speaker 1:I don't think all of them can articulate their positions. I think their, I think their positions, generally speaking, are so abhorrent that they don't want to articulate them publicly because and that lets you know that they know they are yeah and they know that, because if you really felt like they were, it was really that popular you would.
Speaker 3:But you just can't, bosa just couldn't, got up there and just said you know, I just really hate n words, you know, because that wouldn't have gone over so well, especially in the locker room well, no one can say that, you know, but yeah did you know. But that lets you know they're on the wrong side of history and social issues, justice etc.
Speaker 1:But, and it's particularly so, outside of baseball and possibly soccer. It's actually extraordinarily difficult to be super pro, publicly right wing, for an obvious reason those sports are majority black in terms of the players, and you gotta go in your locker room with your teammates who you play for, play with and for for years at a time and, like you know, you got a bunch of black teammates. You can't be out here with a super racist candidate, you know, wearing it on your sleeve or your hat Nick Bosa's case without some possible backlash inside the locker room with the team, with the team organization, even though the owners at the top are likely pro Trumptrump in most cases, it's just, I mean but the thing is you could rock a maga hat in 2016 and nobody would really too much give you side eye, and maybe even up until 2020, but between 2020 and 2024, there are no quiet parts.
Speaker 3:So if you rock that hat now, it has a whole different vibe to it. With the shit that we've been seeing for the past four years, the things they've been saying, the, the, the people that have been it's a it's the energy is completely different. So while back then it was just like okay, whatever do you, now it's a it's. The energy is completely different. So while back then it was just like okay, whatever do you, now it's like nah bro, it's just wearing it tells me what you think, because it's a scar on the letter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you endorse all the bad things that come along, all that shit, yeah, yeah yeah, maybe you had a little bit of degrees of separation back then, Like when people said well, you know, I just thought and I didn't take. You can't say that now with a straight fucking face. You can try, but you can't. So it's like I see you.
Speaker 3:I see you, bro, so hope you don't need the DL. You know somebody coming for you Like they're going to do it for you. Like they gonna do him. Like they gonna do him like Jamie Foxx on any given Sunday after he made them comments and his ass got ate the fuck up.
Speaker 1:That was crazy. Just let him get smashed back there in the backfield, smashed all day up, alright. So Saturday there was a poll released. One of the most prominent, well well-known and well-respected pollsters in Iowa, seltzer, released a poll showing that Kamala Harris had a significant lead over Trump in Iowa. I thought it was three, yeah, it might have been three points.
Speaker 1:So you know that rocked the political world because, generally speaking, over the course of the past, you know a two or three point margin, if not sometimes nailing it exactly.
Speaker 1:And this rocked the political world, not because you know people are believing that Kamala Harris is actually going to outright win Iowa, but if Trump is doing so poorly in Iowa that this pollster might be correctly predicting within a handful of points that Kamala Harris has put Iowa in play.
Speaker 1:What it says about the possibility of Kamala Harris running away with the election in other swing states, or you know, just demographically, in terms of the similarities between Iowa and states like, say, minnesota or Ohio, if it's that close, then Trump is cooked.
Speaker 1:And again, so I think if, if she had come out and said Trump were winning Iowa by six points, no one would bat an eye and, in fact, the right would be using it as evidence that Trump is about to win the 2020 election in overwhelming fashion, or at least in fashion similar to 2016.
Speaker 1:But this suggests that, just in terms of demographics, kamala Harris is likely to overperform with women voters, particularly white, educated voters, both male and female, and just like older voters in terms of, you know, the 55 and up crowd and that has implications for states like North Carolina, georgia, maybe not so much Arizona, but a number of states that Trump needs to win Like. If this pollster is correct about what the data shows about Kamala Harris's chances, it's not going to look pretty for Trump on election day Now. I assume that Tuesday we're probably not going to know the results of the election either way, even if Trump appears to possibly be in a position to win the election. But if Kamala Harris does happen to win something like North Carolina, we'll know that pretty early to be able to look at results in Florida and have a pretty clear indication of even you know the fact that she might lose the state but still overperform. That has implications for other states, particularly the blue wall or any population also the down ballot candidates.
Speaker 3:It could, it could, you know, while she may just barely miss it the trajectory, but we could pick up some much needed seats.
Speaker 1:Flip some seats yeah, it'll definitely have implication for, like, whether or not Democrats regain or retain control of the House. But it also has implications for Georgia and Arizona, who have Hispanic populations that vote in pretty large numbers. But you know, typically Florida, like the Cuban population, is slightly different in terms of Hispanic voters.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't even lump them together, but you know what the Haitian, the puerto rican population might just cancel them the fuck out this year.
Speaker 1:So absolutely so, if we have signs in florida, that show harris performing strongly with certain demographic, demographic groups has pretty clear implications about how well she'll perform in, you know, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, north carolina, arizona, georgia all the states that trump absolutely needs in order to stay out of prison. Uh, and then just again, like the iowa, the iowa poll was a bombshell, not just because she has such a history of, you know, being fairly accurate on predictions, but like it is, really it is. It is causing a bunch of doom and panic in right-wing circles because they know what it implies and they know that if that's the case, then it's all over before we and they don't have time to do no voter suppression there?
Speaker 1:no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:And so another thing thing is typically I would say, you know, if you're looking at the polls trying to figure out whether or not they're predictive in terms of the 2024 election, they're going to be less predictive than ever out these.
Speaker 1:So you, it's difficult to cook a poll in terms of like, the, the, the flat results from what you get from the participants. But all of these foals get weighted by what they expect the electorate to look like and they've been under sampling women. They've been under sampling, you know, black women voters, black male voters, they've been under sampling educated voters to get to a number that makes it look as though Trump's got, like you know, a one point lead in states that Kamala Harris will probably win by maybe a half a point or a point. In states where you know Trump might win by a point. These polls have been showing Trump up by three and four in order to make the people who put out the polling averages just say throw it into the average, and it makes it look as though trump is performing stronger than he actually is. And this, this specific pollster, is well, in fact, just, I don't know she's, I just disregard polling averages is what I'm saying, basically, just.
Speaker 5:Just throw those out. Tell people to vote. Go vote, make everyone vote.
Speaker 1:So it's not just tell people to vote.
Speaker 1:It's that you shouldn't use these polling averages as some kind of indicator of what you think is going to happen on Election Day, because those polls are cooked, and I know this because if you look at swing state Senate races, generally speaking, all of the Democratic Senate races in these states, the Democrat is running away with it, or at least in close states, they're up by, you know, plus three, plus four, plus five over what the polling averages are saying in terms of the presidential election.
Speaker 1:And I, you know, would just take it with a grain of salt, these things that are suggesting Trump is going to win outright. It's obviously going to be a close election. It's likely going to be something like 2016, where it comes down to four or five states, 200,000 votes split between them. That'll be the difference in who comes out victorious. But I would say all the factors at this point are pointing in favor of Kamala Harris and if I were to pick a position that I would want to be in, I would want to be the Harris campaign. Right now and I think, just most importantly, as we head into Election Day again, if you haven't voted, vote already. Do what you can to ensure that your friends and family members turn out to vote.
Speaker 3:Volunteer to drive people to the polls, if you can do so, if you have the availability the NAACP is giving free rides on Lyft $20 up to two rides for a total of $40 to the polls. So if you go to NAACP vote 24, twenty four Dot, hold on and that and go there. But yeah, so they're. They're giving people a hand with that, which is which is amazing, and I posted that on my Facebook because I have a family in North Carolina. You know friends and family in Georgia, in Michigan, in Flint, in Pennsylvania, new York, but just trying to get everybody, yeah, so I got to take food out of the oven.
Speaker 3:Oh my God.
Speaker 5:My kids haven't eaten.
Speaker 1:Fuck them kids. No, so just you know everyone who's been listening to this podcast over the course of the past couple of years like we appreciate all of your support, that you tune in every single week, that you press play on that play button, that you share this with your friends and on social media to your followers and whatnot, and like it's been quite the journey for us, I would imagine as just as much of a journey as it's been for you Got the possibility of being part of something historic. You know I look back at 2008. I live in Tennessee. It's a red state. You know at the time what little my vote mattered. It didn't really feel like I was largely responsible for the advent of the Obama administration, as historic as it was.
Speaker 1:Again, looking at where I was then and the opportunity that I have to play a role in this election, I feel like this is my opportunity to personally put my stamp on making sure we arrive at a historic moment of having the first black woman to become president of the United States. And you have that opportunity as well. Even if you're a blue dot in a red state or your state votes overwhelmingly democratic, not just in a swing state like any state. You have the opportunity to say that you made the decision that we're going to end the insanity brought upon America by Republicans and Trump specific over the course of the past decade. You're going to put an end to that and bring forth something we've never had in this country before, and this is your opportunity to feel like you have the chance to contribute to American history and I suggest you take it. That concludes this episode of Pardon the Insurrection.
