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Did Elon Musk Help Steal The Election From Trump?
Could Elon Musk be the next supervillain in a saga of election conspiracies? We explore the tantalizing theories that link Musk to U.S. elections, Republicans' alleged misconduct since 2016, and the curious events of 2020's election night. Speculation swirls around the potential for Musk's Starlink systems to be tied to vote tabulators in 2024, casting him in a shadowy light. As we question the narratives, a UK firm's video adds another layer to the enigma, painting Musk as a multifaceted player in the electoral game.
Shifting gears, we scrutinize Musk's controversial takeover of Twitter and its rippling effects on misinformation. With banned accounts reappearing and a false tweet about Paul Pelosi's attack, the platform's role in political chaos comes under fire. We share our frustrations with election campaigns' organizational hurdles, grappling with misinformation and the reemergence of far-right figures like Andrew Tate. The discussion highlights the turbulence of political manipulation and the security gaps within voting systems that keep us vigilant.
The episode wraps with a focus on empowering voters to safeguard their electoral influence. We spotlight practical measures, such as advocating for hand counts and leveraging resources like vote.org, to ensure every voice is heard. As we brace for a potential second Trump term, we dissect demographic shifts and the fears looming over various communities. Emphasizing civic engagement, we encourage resilience and awareness amid evolving local and national political dynamics, while contemplating how leadership decisions could shape our future.
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in terms of the conspiracy theories floating around about the election potentially being stolen. Like I'm not one to super dilly dally and conspiracy theories on the podcast, I mean it's just a pointless exercise for me largely and that's not to say that I don't believe republicans cheated in the election. I believe they believe Republicans cheated in the election. I believe they've been cheating in the election since 2016, for that matter, Like we've talked about that endlessly. All of the things they did in 2016 to try and steal the election and where they were successful in winning the electoral college. All the things they did in 2020 where they were unsuccessful in trying to steal the election, which resulted in a failed coup which resulted in a successful coup which eventually resulted in a successful coup.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is part of the problem with not holding these people responsible at the time and by responsible I'm not talking specifically about January 6th, I'm talking specifically about 2016 because no one paid any real consequences, even though Robert Mueller and I had numerous people. They felt comfortable in the idea that they could cheat in 2020 and 2024, and it worked out for them. But we do have comments from Elon Musk during his appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast that, again not to inflame any conspiracy theories out there, but in all likelihood make you have some questions at the very least, if not some potential serious concerns.
Speaker 4:It was interesting because the beginning of the night no one knew what was gonna happen. So you're watching the first results roll in and there's like this weird thing and then Trump gets way ahead but you're like you don't want to like it too hopeful how far ahead he's a head by 100 points.
Speaker 1:That seems like a lot yeah, you're like what is it in? Some channels are like, and then every channels kind of different yeah, they're different numbers.
Speaker 4:I was getting a different number off my Apple News Update, then I was getting off of CNN and then I was texting people like Tulsi and JD Vance. I was getting a different up. Apparently, elon created an app and he knew who won four hours before the results. So as the results were coming in four hours before they called it, dana White told me Elon was like I'm leaving, it's over, donald won. He just fucking somehow or another.
Speaker 5:I'm going to go back to my pod and evaporate.
Speaker 4:I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling his data from, but he had, like, the most accurate data in terms of the rural states. Hadn't put the results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states. Kamala is never going to win those states, so tabulated that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, apparently, over the course of the 2024 election, elon Starlink systems were connected to a number of vote tabulators Now, not the actual vote systems themselves, but the machines that do the counting in order to, I suppose, increase their Internet connectivity. Now, again, like the not to be super conspiratorial here, but these are the people who, in 2020, said the satellites were flipping votes. You can take from that what you want. I'm, I'm. You know.
Speaker 1:If you do possibly have any theories about any impact that having those tabulators being connected to the internet could have on the counting of actual votes, feel free to muse over there. Those, uh, you know, I'm not necessarily saying that elon must directly interfered in the counting of actual votes. Feel free to muse over those. You know, I'm not necessarily saying that Elon Musk directly interfered in the counting of votes. Anything is possible. But you have Joe Rogan there saying, who just recently had Elon Musk on his podcast, that Elon had put together an app that definitively told him that Donald Trump won the election hours before it was even called. So make of that what you will, uh, but that's what happens when you give you know, a super wealthy uh, formerly apartheid when you try to make an iron man and you end up with apartheid baby like control not lex luther in this case, since we have the mcu and robert downey jr, who was formerly iron man, returning as a as a villain.
Speaker 1:This go around. The analogy would be when you have iron man, uh and and you unmask him to reveal dr doom oh dear yep. But speaking of elon musk and his involvement in the 2024 election, we have a video clip put together by a uk firm that lays out all of elon's various roles in influencing.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, I saw this earlier this is the story of how the world's richest person, the owner of tesla and x, bought the global town square, then corrupted it, before using his immense wealth to help elect a convicted felon. April 14, 2022, elon musk makes an unsolicited offer to buy Twitter for $44 billion. He claims the site has become politically skewed and says For Twitter to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral. October 27, the deal goes through. The next evening, a far-right conspiracy theorist breaks into the San Francisco home of Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, intending to kidnap her. Pelosi is away, but the man attacks her husband, paul, hitting him repeatedly on the head with a hammer. Paul Pelosi escapes with his life, but requires surgery for a fractured skull. While most people take the chance to decry political violence, the new owner of Twitter, elon Musk, posts a tweet sharing an entirely false claim that Paul Pelosi was in fact injured in a drunken fight with a male prostitute with whom he was involved. Musk includes a link to a false claim on a website that has a history of publishing conspiracy theories, including a story asserting that Hillary Clinton is dead and has been replaced by a body double. Musk's post is retweeted 24,000 times before he deletes it.
Speaker 5:November 18th, musk's Twitter starts to unlock previously banned accounts. Misogynist far-right influencer Andrew Tate was permanently banned from Twitter in 2017 after urging women to quote bear some responsibility for rape. Now he's back. Tate posts. I've decided to fly to the failed state of California, walk into Twitter HQ and tell at Elon Musk he's a legend On my way. Two months later, tate will be arrested in Romania on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organized crime group.
Speaker 1:And it just goes on, and on, and on and on. We'll post a link to that.
Speaker 2:I made it less far into the video earlier today when I watched it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we'll post a link to the video.
Speaker 2:I just got a thing from that that place I was supposed to be phone banking that never got. They're like, hey, how was the event? Like what the fuck? Where was the link? Dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So yeah, I was supposed to be ballot curing. Yes, to explain in greater detail.
Speaker 2:Ballot curing. There are still some undecided congressional races for 2024. And I was told that a lot of ballots have been rejected or for various reasons and those voters have an opportunity to cure their ballots until a certain date. I don't know what it is. I had volunteered for banking shift today to call people in California and I don't know. I just the link just kept rerouting me to the registration page and it was like wait for instructions from a state. I'm like what state? What state, what instructions? So I tried. Maybe this is why we fucking lost, but I think it was Elon Musk.
Speaker 1:So clearly we need to get our organizational skills together. Or it's just me?
Speaker 2:I said so many words and states.
Speaker 1:When it comes to doing things as simple as phone banking to get voters to cure their ballots. But yeah, back to Elon Musk. So that video is I think it's like almost 10 minutes long. It's just endless examples of Elon Musk's attempts to manipulate the American public into voting against their best interests. And again, so post 2021, you know. Again back to feeling the election stealing, conspiracy theories. So back in 2021, post coup. You know Trump's campaign fought to get access to voting equipment in Georgia and they did so, and who knows what exactly the campaign gleaned from that information, but it's entirely possible they could have got access to the source code that could have allowed them.
Speaker 2:I'm guessing they didn't care about the licensing agreement they had, but they were and were not allowed to do with the software on the machine. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not going to reverse engineer it.
Speaker 1:No, of course not. But no, I you know, theoretically speaking it's, it's possible that a handful of programmers could have looked at the code and engineered some sort of some sort of virus that they could use to infiltrate these voting systems and, theoretically, have them.
Speaker 2:Yes, this is all. This is all true in theory, but also in theory, if you have this theory, and while we still have intelligence communities, like if there really is suspicion of this, I would hope that people with investigative and intelligence skills would be on this. So I just cannot afford to put my mental energy into like pursuing a conspiracy while I don't know. I can't, I can't waste a second just with copium or whatever yeah, I'd agree with you there.
Speaker 1:I probably wouldn't spend too much time delving into that. What I would say is if it's, then, then we'll.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll hear more about it.
Speaker 1:What I would say instead is what you can do in practical terms is, if you live in a swing state, you call your local elections representative or your secretary of state's office and ask for a hand count. A hand count, and if there is any discrepancy between actual votes and what was tabulated, a hand count will at the very least, show a percentage of a discrepancy, and that could potentially lead to a forensic examination that would allow some of the swing states to look further into their election systems whether any votes might have been tabulated differently than they were cast.
Speaker 2:I just don't know why you would assume that the wheels weren't already in motion for this. And it's just that we have a candidate who doesn't like state say everything out loud like ha ha, ha ha. You don't know what I'm like. She's like all, right now I don't think this is happening, but if if it were happening, I wouldn't be like ha ha ha, I'd be like yeah, okay, and then just come with the fucking paperwork.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, I'm so obviously the harris campaign's been really quiet since the election. I don't take that to mean anything one way or the other. I don't think that's a signal that something's being done behind the scenes quietly in terms of the campaign.
Speaker 2:Or she could just be getting ready to flee the country. Who fucking knows?
Speaker 1:Yeah, theoretically they could be looking for ways to ensure that there's a recount or a recount by hand or some sort of some sort of investigation into election systems, but I don't think their silence on that matter means anything one way or the other. Also, on the other hand, the intelligence community if they are investigating any potential access into voting machines or tabulation equipment, that investigation is going to be done in absolute silence and we're not going to get any public information until that investigation is concluded and in all likelihood that'll take weeks at the very least. Now I'm absolutely sure if there was absolute, there were no evidence whatsoever of any kind of tampering with equipment or any kind of insertion of malware into these devices. If there were evidence of that, they could potentially come to that conclusion fairly fast in terms of or at least making a public statement that they'd be looking into this. But again, you know the coin. It's just a coin flip on whether or not they would make that information publicly available before the investigation is completed.
Speaker 1:But again, I would say don't rely on that and instead what you can do in practical terms is make sure your vote is counted by calling your elections office. In doing so, you can check out voteorg. If you voted early by mail generally, specifically by mail In a lot of these swing states those votes do get tracked. So if you mailed your ballot and you know you mailed it and you can check voteorg to see if it received. I think in Pennsylvania specifically, it won't update past received but in some states, like Arizona, once it's received and counted it will update from received to counted and that's probably a good way to ensure that your vote was counted. And even if it's not, the difference in the margins between Kamala Harris winning over Trump could be the difference in a House race.
Speaker 2:Especially if you live in California. Just like, if you're listening to this show, you probably know what fucking congressional district you're in, or you should Look it up and if your race hasn't been called, find out. If you're, yeah, find out. If it's been counted. Ask your friends to find out if their ballots have been counted. Ask your neighbors.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so, of course, after the news that Trump was elected president and will be taking office in 2025, just, we've had just an explosion of just absolute racism misogyny across America, highlighted by another other than Nick Fuentes posting on Twitter the quote, the quote your body, my choice, thereby assuming that he means that women do not have control over their bodies and, in fact, that it is the men that have control over women's bodies. And I would just like to say that we do not support that or propose that idea to be true in any shape, form or fashion. It's just absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just roasted him all over the internet. Apparently. Someone looked up all his information and doxxed him on the internet and a bunch of people were like tweeting out your house, my choice, which is pretty good. Women out there who are not going to take this lightly. I approve.
Speaker 2:It's not illegal to have his address right, Just to post it it's not illegal to have his address right, Just to post it.
Speaker 1:It's publicly available information if you want.
Speaker 2:No, it's not illegal for me to say, for me to have it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say stay away from posting it to the laws.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to post it. I mean I haven't.
Speaker 3:I mean I don't have it just because I'm not down with thoughts. You know, doxing of people, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and I don't like when it happens to us. So I mean, though, I did kiki because I thought it was cute and funny, but I didn't share or repost. You know I'm not going to do that. Yeah, I'm a mix bag, regardless of how vile I think that motherfucker is yeah, the comments were.
Speaker 1:It was just extraordinarily gross and distasteful and I am, generally speaking, not a fan of doxing either, but also, like it was, nick fuentes being the worst possible person in the world and his information. Generally speaking, if you wanted to find it, it's publicly available. So I really just yeah, it's, it's a. It's tough drawing that line, uh, but in terms of you know, women deciding that they're going to step up and defend themselves and I take this lying down I support that wholeheartedly, and men should probably be doing a better job of standing up and and supporting women as well. Ty, I don't know what the hell it is you're doing over there. What are you doing?
Speaker 3:I got it the mosquitoes are killing me.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, you are glistening over there. You look like a, like a bodybuilding contest. You were just shining. You look like one of them. P Diddy parties with all the baby oil.
Speaker 3:Stop, it All right, no, no.
Speaker 2:Probably going to let Diddy out of jail.
Speaker 1:Well, you know you live in New York.
Speaker 3:We're going to have to bail out on this because I'm getting hungry. I love you guys listening and watching.
Speaker 1:We're going to let you step out.
Speaker 3:We'll catch you later. Love you guys. Love you D. Love you Carol. Love you listeners. I'm still on vacation. Bye.
Speaker 1:All right, ty's currently on vacation out of the country and enjoying some family time, yeah, chilling out with her husband and visiting some family for a wedding. But so, yeah, it's been just the explosion of just distasteful, gross behavior on social media. It's been tough here to watch over the course of the past few days.
Speaker 2:Are you saying I quit Twitter at a good time.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, in case you missed it, carol's quit Twitter. She doesn't like the idea of Elon Musk having access to her information. But again, you know once you've.
Speaker 2:I mean he's going to keep it it anyway. It's not like he cares. I was like, oh, I could delete my stuff 90 days before trump takes office and like you'll have to get rid of my data, but because that'll violate the fci, he's gonna get rid of the fcc yeah, the fcc, that thing is probably toast.
Speaker 1:uh, you know, I'm sorry, guys, these are the consequences of electing Trump.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so in terms of just all of the bad things that happen over the course of a second Trump administration is going to be terribly bad, but that's not only including the things that the Trump administration is going to do. It's going to be a number of just the worst people on planet earth being fucking emboldened to engage in the worst possible behavior we've seen in our lifetimes. You can just you know, that is just a fact, you can mark that down. I mean, I just assume in terms of like crime statistics, sexual assaults are likely going up. You know hate crimes are likely going up.
Speaker 1:Of course we're going to have just it's not going to be good guys. I'm sorry, like I want to be positive and proactive, but to do that like got to be honest with you. You're going to have to accept that it's going to be an extraordinarily difficult and dark time with what's coming ahead. But again, you know we'll be here. We'll be here for you to be your weekly therapy session, fingers crossed, you know, unless me and carol end up getting sent off to the concentration camp somehow, which is still a possibility. Uh, you know, and in that regard, make sure you hit the like button. Uh, subscribe all that good stuff make sure I might I might power out before then.
Speaker 1:You're scaring the shit out of me and look list of the list of enemies on trump's list uh, is extraordinarily long.
Speaker 1:We're going to be close to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1:So you've you've got that going for you and they're going to come after a lot of people before they come after us, so you'll have plenty of warning signs, uh well, that being said, if any of my co-hosts do decide that they need to for the safety of themselves and their friends and family or whatnot, decide that they shall not be continuing in this endeavor to cover the insanity that's coming, I got to tell you I ain't really got no options.
Speaker 1:As a black guy living in America, I've already seen how bad it can possibly get, and just giving in to that in all likelihood will lead to just as poor of an outcome as attempting to resist it in that regard. But I know a lot of you out there probably feeling down and detracted and disappointed in America, and I totally agree with you out there. But there's absolutely no group feeling more down and dejected and disgusted with this outcome than black women who voted for Kamala Harris at somewhere close to 92 percent, who voted for Kamala Harris at somewhere close to 92%, yet again showing that they are the most intelligent and apt and compassionate demographic.
Speaker 2:I heard Jewish women were at 88%.
Speaker 1:Y'all were right there. I was just about to say past black women, jewish women, y'all are invited to the cookout. Y'all get to go, y'all get to put. We're going to turn that shit into a bar mitzvah. It's going to be lit Matzah balls for everybody.
Speaker 2:Don't, don't, don't. This is like a Passover bar mitzvah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't, don't. Don't. Bring no fish, though we don't really well, no, um. So, demographically speaking, uh, as we get more and more numbers here, it appears like a couple things happened during the 2024 election, like trump basically hit his 2020 number plus um, uh, he was extraordinarily successful he lost votes uh, I think he's gonna hit his 2024 number plus maybe a million or so.
Speaker 1:Um, so he was successful and, of course, maintaining his white vote and proving upon what he did in 2020 and and you know, I'll try to tell you, I'm not you specifically, carol, but a lot of people is like one of the best things biden did was pull white male voters away from Trump and we just threw that advantage away like garbage. I mean, I talked about before the election, like one of the things about switching from Kamala Harris to Trump, or rather, switching from Biden to Kamala Harris or switching from Harris to Trump is just a disaster. But so that transition from Biden to Harris, you were going to lose some voters who were likely only going to show up for Joe Biden in 2024. And with Kamala Harris on the ticket that's kind of what happened Like she's just not going to hit the same numbers that Biden hit and if she had, she still would have won this election. And because she didn't, you know, the future is looking grim. Also, white women voters voted for Trump at about the same rate as they did in 2020. But because the electorate is a few million votes short of where it was in 2020, that number, percentage wise, is a little bit higher for Trump.
Speaker 1:Latinos move slightly towards Trump in a lot of states and that contributed to Kamala Harris's loss, you know, despite the fact that Trump's policies will be largely detrimental to them in terms of just economically and well, in terms of like citizenship. He's already said that he's planned on trying to ensure that the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to people who were born from undocumented, slash illegal immigrants. So anyone who was brought into the country or anyone who was in the country illegally, who has children, those people won't be citizens, and I'm assuming there's probably some sort of plan to send that decision, like file a lawsuit and send that decision up to the Supreme Court, in hopes the Supreme Court will enact that retroactively, meaning that if your parents or grandparents or great-grandparents were in the country illegally, then you'll have your citizenship revoked and you'll be part of the mass deportation program. So kudos to you guys. Latino group Black men voted about the same in terms of raw numbers, as they did in 2020. As they did in 2020.
Speaker 1:But again, because the electorate was slightly smaller, you know, trump won a slightly larger percentage of black men than he did in 2020. I think it was somewhere around 79, 80% of black men voted for Kamala Harris, which you know. Just to put things in perspective here, like a lot of talk about black men abandoning the Democratic Party was false, because Trump got about, you know, maybe 10 to 12 percent of the black vote in 2020. And I think this time he got around 12 to 14. I mean that's just a tiny percentage in terms of swings to 14. I mean that's just a tiny percentage in terms of swings, but past Black men, no one else voted for the Democratic Party and specifically Kamala Harris, at the rate that Black men, black women and Jewish women did. So I mean, just take that how you want to. Again, it's just small shifts here and there and lower turnout on the Democratic Party were largely responsible for Trump's victory.
Speaker 1:But there was another strange outcome that determined a number of elections in swing states, and that appears to be the fact that, even though Kamala Harris lost all seven of the major battleground states, democratic senators in those states won an overwhelming victory. I think it was a sweep. Was there a Senate race in Pennsylvania? So North Carolina, wisconsin, michigan, all of those places.
Speaker 2:Senate race in Pennsylvania hasn't been called.
Speaker 1:Hasn't been called yet. So that might be the one where Republicans win the Senate, but in all the other states, democrats massively overperform Kamala Harris in state races. And there's a couple of you know key takeaways from that. One is that apparently, you know there were hundreds of thousands of voters in each of these states to three hundred thousand that apparently voted for Trump at the top of the ticket but didn't vote for any other Republican down ballot. They just left everything else blank.
Speaker 1:Now, in terms of you know, votes in that regard that were undervoted in 2020, it's just a massive three, four X increase. And again, as I say, call your state elected official to make sure that your vote gets counted, because that's a statistical anomaly that's difficult to account for, just in terms of. I mean, you know, statistically speaking, it's highly unlikely that. You know, two, three million people in America decided in one of the most important presidential elections that they were only going to vote for president Right. It's just extraordinarily weird. And so that's how you end up with, you know, north Carolina going to Trump and a Democratic governor.
Speaker 2:And good on them. They got us to say that talking about elections being stolen is insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the people are falling for that stage for the shit that they fucked up yeah, the the republicans spent four years talking about how our election was rigged, and then, when they win the election, they're like hi, you can't say their election was rigged now, and like that's extraordinarily dumb. You can question the election results. All you want to. What you can't do is storm the fucking Capitol. Speaking of which, I hope everyone listening to this podcast is buying their tickets for DC to attend the January 6th certificate. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, but Carol, got any thoughts that you wanted to get off your chest before we close here?
Speaker 2:Got any thoughts that you wanted to get off your chest before we close here? I mean, I was trying to avoid watching things like that Trump video for my sanity, because I feel like the only thing I could really do is try to serve around my community. I don't know, I've been trying to turn feelings of hopelessness into like some sort of action. I can't think of much besides like local involvement and reaching out to people and showing kindness. I can't. Maybe I'll go take shooting lessons. It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1:You know, given the impending apocalypse, you probably need to learn how to shoot a gun. Me personally, after watching the Walking Dead, my solution here is to buy a sword, because those don't jam, they don't run out of bullets, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:My governor starts having some sort of like freedom task force or something.
Speaker 2:But I mean, I hate to break it to you I probably wouldn't put too much faith in Kathy Hochul whatever the fuck her name is yeah, she's, she's a lot more, I mean she's not a conservative, but she's a lot more conservative of a Democrat than you would generally expect to come out of a governor. New York hopes to be able to work with the new president or whatever, but if the federal government tries to impinge on New Yorkers' freedoms, we have a task force ready to defend them as much as we can. And I know that you're saying they can't do that much, possibly. That much possibly, but let's fucking see, because I can't lay down and die right now.
Speaker 1:So uh, yeah, I mean fingers crossed, like, again, we're mostly counting on trump's incompetence to be the hindrance to him successfully executing any sort of you know irreversible events across the united states over the course of his administration. Now, I mean again, stupid people with power can do a lot of damage, so you know who knows what's possible. Uh, but you do have letitia james, who I imagine is likely to stay in office, if not run for mayor of new york. But I absolutely suggest you guys up there in New York I know you're not in New York City specifically, but y'all got to get Eric Adams the fuck up out of there. Republican in chief's clothing this entire time.
Speaker 2:Now he's kissing up to Trump, hoping that these federal investigations which I was saying before he was voted the candidate.
Speaker 1:Hey, maya Wiley was right there, but no, eric Adams is getting up to Trump now, probably hoping to make those federal investigations go away. If not, get a pardon. I mean you know, and then again you know, being the mayor of New York City, he could do a lot to help enable some of Trump's you know worst.
Speaker 1:I don't even really know what the word is specifically, but just you know his instincts, yeah, and some of his worst impulses in terms of punishing blue states for not supporting him overwhelmingly. You know Gavin Newsom out there in California. I know a lot of you guys probably look at him as the future of the Democratic Party. I wouldn't really jump to conclusions on that but, fingers crossed, he'll do what he can to ensure that Californians are protected. But I mean it's going to be just a lot of turmoil out here and conflict between the states and the federal government and you're going to need you know a lot. You're going to need a strong governor. You're going to need strong mayors. You're going to need, you know very talented and insightful attorneys working with your states in order to sue the Trump administration and fight all the rulings that are probably coming forward here over the course of the next four years. And, fingers crossed, if enough states band together, they can tie up the Trump administration in court for a long time over the things that he's planning to institute. Just the only problem there is with the most important of issues they're likely going to get appealed by the Trump administration. Fast track to the Supreme Court and they're going to rubber stamp Trump's policies.
Speaker 1:And I'm absolutely sure the people out here thinking that the mass deportations aren't going to happen. I got news for you, buddy those things are absolutely going to get rolling. How successful will they be in scope is difficult to tell, because they're extraordinarily expensive to carry out and you also have to have a location to place these people once they're rounded up for detention. And then you have to find countries that are willing to accept these people, which is going to be extraordinarily difficult, as the Nazis found out with the Jewish population pre-World War II. And again, just like instilling fear among millions of people working in this country to feel as though they can't work or participate in all the aspects of, you know, american community is just. It's going to be deleterious to the country economically as well.
Speaker 1:I mean a lot of these people that Trump says that he wants to round up first are the quote unquote illegal migrants, and those people do things like they. They produce your food supply. Food's going to get extraordinarily expensive very quickly, you know, 23 bucks when there's no one to plant and pick the lettuce or to work on the farms to raise the cows or in the slaughterhouses to chop up your beef. You're going to have a difficult time with that. Also, again, with the tariffs that he's planning on instituting. There's absolutely nothing that can stop him from doing that. Like the president of the United States, has pretty much unilateral authority in regards to tariffs being placed on what he would consider, you know, the enemies of the United States, so there's an argument that he can make that you know China is an adversary Like his, his business, the people in business around him are not going to.
Speaker 2:I know Elon Musk wants the economy to be crash, but I don't know if every businessman wants to, like all those billionaire class want the fucking economy to crash or want to pay all those fucking tariffs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but so the people in Trump's? I know you have.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but for every fucking worst case scenario, stop it.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying the guard rails are off and it's going to be a rough four years, but you still got us. We'll always be here for you in some form or fashion, even if that's secret broadcast from the internment camps. And that concludes this episode of Part of the Insurrection.
