Real Life Consequences Have Become Reality TV

What happens when the lines between entertainment and politics begin to blur? Join us as we grapple with the surreal reality of Trump winning the election, and Mike Tyson stepping into the ring against a YouTuber at 58 years old. It seems like the world is turning into a bizarre reality TV show, where spectacle outweighs substance. We unravel the implications of Tyson's choice to prioritize financial gain over legacy and our frustration over the sidelining of black athletes in favor of social media influencers like Jake Paul. 

We shift gears to examine the unexpected political maneuvers of Joe Biden, inviting Donald Trump to the White House amidst lingering tensions from the 2020 transition chaos. The glaring absence of a pandemic response plan from the previous administration serves as a lens through which we scrutinize how political dynamics have impacted public health governance. Navigating the complexities of moral ambiguity, we weigh in on the challenges of reconciling Mike Tyson’s troubled past with his current persona.

Finally, the controversial nomination of Matt Gaetz for Attorney General by Trump takes center stage, with its problematic implications for justice and governance. We tackle Trump's military loyalty demands and plans for mass deportations, unraveling the potential diplomatic and logistical challenges that loom. Amidst this political whirlwind, the episode underscores the essential need for critical thinking and media literacy, urging our listeners to remain vigilant and informed as we maneuver through these turbulent times.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:19

One, two, three, four podcast where, after trump winning the election and mike tyson losing to a youtuber, black people across the country have never been more down bad. We just can't have no pictures. It's rough out there for your boys. It's rough out there for my people. You gotta have our backs to support us in these crazy ass weeks it's been something.

Speaker 1: 0:42

Uh, I and I've been trying to tell people, man, uh, I mean not, this is important because we do have some important things to get to, but like the universe, just or at least this country in particular has just become a reality tv show. There's absolutely no way, uh, mike tyson should be 58 years old, should be out here just boxing a youtuber. But what's more absurd is the fact that if you watch Tyson train, you're like, oh, he's actually in really good shape. And then you watch the fight and you're like, oh, he could have killed him at any time and didn't. This is all for show.

Speaker 3: 1:15

Did you read the uh, the, the rules, the contract? No, the contract was so crazy somebody was going through and it was like, oh okay, if he knocked him out in the first round, tyson would be penalized financially.

Speaker 1: 1:30

And then it was like the same, it was just all this shit hamstring because basically they wanted to draw it out number one once I saw the well, I saw the part about where he wouldn't get his bag if, the, if it ended in a ko in the first round, I was like like, oh, this is, I'm out, I don't. I didn't even watch it in real time. I woke up the next day, checked out you know a few of the rounds and I was like, oh, cause, I saw there was one point where Tyson stuck him with a jab really hard, knocked him off balance and made him drop his left hand and when he didn't go in for the kill shot right there, because I mean obviously the next, yeah, the next course of moves is like you come with the heavy right, hit the body, blow and then you throw up a cut and it's all over.

Speaker 1: 2:14

And when he didn't do that, I was like, oh, this is, this is some bullshit. And I just yeah, you know forget.

Speaker 3: 2:20

You know it's sad, it's. It's really sad that I mean I don't know if he needed the money, because I do know that it's sad, it's. It's really sad that I mean I don't know if he needed the money, because I do know that he's had some financial issues in his time, you know, after his career and everything thanks to Don King. But I'm just like they want to. My first thing in my mind was they want to remove black folks from everything. They want to remove black folks from everything. They're pumping up this. I'm dead ass serious. It sounds silly, but I was like and now they take, they're taking back boxing. You know what I mean? Like they're taking back boxing and they're propping up this, jake Paul.

Speaker 1: 3:03

Then you got to have all these rules and I don't know, man, where's the dignity? Well, you know, Mike, that kid asked Mike Tyson about his legacy and he was like, legacy means nothing, we're all going to die. And I was like, oh yeah. And then when I saw the fight, he's like, yeah, he clearly chose the bag over his leg.

Speaker 3: 3:17

Yeah, he was like what the fuck? I hear about a legacy and look.

Speaker 1: 3:20

I ain't judging Like. If I had the opportunity to make 20 million dollars by standing around throwing punches at Jake Paul but not really trying to end it, I'd probably do it.

Speaker 3: 3:30

I was angry, bunny. She made a good point and she was like, oh great, so a convicted rapist and accused rapists are fighting, cool.

Speaker 1: 3:43

I was like, ok, okay, that's fair yeah look, I don't even know how to talk about mike tyson from a moral perspective. Like it's it's. It's difficult to even comprehend the insanity that went into creating what the person mike tyson became over the course of his boxing career. A lot of detestable things. I know he was convicted on a rape count, but and you know we're in the space of let's let's try to believe women if possible. This is one of the weird cases where I might make an exception in Mike Tyson's case, not because I think Mike Tyson is a good person, but mostly because he is actually willing to admit to you just how terrible of a person he was, of what person he is, to admit to you just how terrible of a person he was, of what person he is, and he was like I actually didn't do that one thing, but I was so bad in all these other ways that I deserved, for instance.

Speaker 3: 4:34

I mean when you are like okay, that was just okay, I didn't do that, but I did so much other dirt.

Speaker 1: 4:45

Yeah, just go ahead and lock me other dirt. Yeah, just go ahead.

Speaker 3: 4:47

That was just my karma. I deserved it for all the shit I didn't get caught for.

Speaker 1: 4:51

Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 3: 4:52

It is now we even like I don't know, like yeah, it's hard to.

Speaker 1: 4:57

I mean, I don't know, I don't want to take a side on that, but it's just, it's funny that he's willing to admit just how bad he was and he was like, even though I didn't do this, I deserve it. That's some wild stuff. But speaking of spectacle, uh, so of course you know, trump won the election. Sad for america, but uh, biden in the world, of course, and biden is, of course, taking the higher role where he invited trump to meet him in the White House to talk about the transition that would need to take place.

Speaker 2: 5:32

Make sure you're accommodating what you need. We're going to get a chance to talk about some of that today and thank you very much. And politics is tough and it's in many cases not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today and I appreciate it very much. A transition that's so smooth it'll be as smooth as it can get and I very much appreciate that. Jim, you're welcome. Thank you all.

Speaker 1: 6:19

So a couple of things. There is first of all, you know, I don't know how to feel about Biden being the bigger man in this situation when trump is threatened to basically have joe biden killed along with kamala harris and and to do detestable things to his son. But he's clearly a better person than I am. That's why he made a better president than I would ever make. Uh, but uh, it's quite funny. So there's also this other clip of him running around with Trump at the White House where photographers are taking pictures and if you notice, in both of those like, for some reason Biden seems extraordinarily happy, for whatever reason, while Trump is. Like I wonder what's going on there. I wonder why Biden is so happy but Trump isn't.

Speaker 3: 7:01

You know. You know there were a lot of people were big, a lot of people were mad, many were disgusted at this. But this exact thing is why we chose him, because at the end of the day, he will always be a diplomat, he will always be diplomatic in his process, he will always be gracious when it comes to that arena and you just can't shake. You know, 60 years of that's just who he is, not just as a politician but as a man in general. And for him it would do America no favors for him to be petty about it it really wouldn't. And then it would just that. Then we would just have her non-stop on the news about. It was a, it was a no win regardless. So he'll either get it from the left or get it from the right, because he didn't. You know what I mean. But at the end of the day, he can hold his head held high and he took the wind out of the sails of trump to be able to oh this. You know how they spend shit yes, I'm playing the.

Speaker 1: 8:06

He took the possibility of them playing grievance politics with the transition out of the equation yeah even though, if you're if you're familiar with what happened in 2020, when, when biden won and trump was in office, uh, the transition practically didn't take place because, uh, emily murphy from the gsa refused to certify the election results and and began the transition for I think three weeks it might have been.

Speaker 3: 8:31

Yeah, I think I wrote about, I think I wrote about her and and what she did to like just him up, just everything in that process. And then of course, he never shared anything with Biden about the, you know, the Afghanistan withdrawal or prepping him for that or anything like the whole. There was no transition.

Speaker 1: 8:50

No, there was no transition and, in fact, when Biden took over the White House in January of 2021, the administration discovered that there was no pandemic response plan. Yeah, so, instead of like telling the administration, like telling the incoming biden administration, hey, this is what the plan is, this is what we've done so far, um, they didn't tell them anything, only discovered that there was absolutely no plan to roll out the vaccines that were beginning to be produced. It's? It basically cost people lives. People died because the biden administration was behind on having a plan on how to roll out these vaccines.

Speaker 4: 9:28

And because Trump.

Speaker 1: 9:29

Instead of spending his time in office trying to mitigate a deadly pandemic, he was focused on trying to overthrow the government.

Speaker 3: 9:36

The thing is, though, he couldn't do that because then that would have blew up his whole the election was stolen. And because, if he had, because that would have been a concession to cooperate with the Biden administration incoming Biden administration to share the information, and it would have pissed off his base, and he already knew he was going to take another bite at the apple. And he needed them, angry, he needed them jammed up, he needed them on their side, he needed them. And so any concessions, any what appearance of quote, unquote weakness, or whatever he would want to call it, or something it would have taken the wind out of the sails and his ability to torture us for the next four years with his bullshit.

Speaker 1: 10:31

Yeah, true story. But you know, in case people are wondering out there what the level of depravity Trump's appointees are willing to go through, go to in the second administration. All you again. All you got to do is look at Emily Murphy here, who refused to certify the election results and begin a transition. I mean, they're just whatever ridiculous, absurd orders he gives, they're going to follow it because they did it before. I mean, they're just whatever ridiculous, absurd orders he gives, they're going to follow it because they did it before and they'll do it again, especially now that you know he's got presidential immunity. He's going to fire people, he's going to hire the most insane people to work in his administration.

Speaker 3: 10:54

And not only that, but he won't even sign that ethics pledge.

Speaker 1: 11:00

Yeah, already breaking the law, and I think a number of Senate Democrats pointed that out, but literally no one's doing anything, which is like hey, man, you still have control of the Senate, you know why. Don't you open some kind of investigation?

Speaker 3: 11:15

Go balls to the wall like go full on dark brand and scorched earth on these motherfuckers like right, fucking now. I wish they would. Burn the shit down, not not our shit, their shit, no again biden being the bigger person.

Speaker 1: 11:30

Yes, that's fair, but, like again, senate democrats, you still have some power, you can use it. But I think for me one of the most frustrating things is watching kamala harris lose to trump by like a point and then every elected official just giving up and giving in to the income. Yes, yeah, I totally get that.

Speaker 3: 11:49

I totally get that because, like when you look at the numbers and and now you know, of course, the, the talking point or narrative is the mandate America, no, no, being like one and a half million votes ahead and they're still counting.

Speaker 1: 12:04

There's still a million in California alone, you know he's not even going to end up with a majority. He's. He's right now at a plurality and again more votes being counted, he could end up still losing the popular vote to come, you know I was.

Speaker 3: 12:18

I was thinking today. I was like he really didn't. He didn't increase his base, he didn't get any more votes and all of the fuckery that they did, all the shenanigans that they did with the voting. What it was about was chipping away at kamala's votes, not about getting more votes for trump, for sure. It was like the voter suppression, the stopping overseas suing to stop overseas ballots. You know 600 to 800,000 overseas ballots and people finding out that. They're about all of that suppression it was about, and, of course, jill fucking Stein and the games they played with the Muslim community. It was all about chipping away at Kamala because they knew Trump didn't get no new people, he just had the same old races he always had. I mean, he got no new.

Speaker 1: 13:11

He got really no new folks but I think he's gonna end up with maybe what? A million and a half, two million more votes than he got in, you know, 2020, which is, I mean, I guess, for any presidential candidate, that's what you want, even though he's the worst candidate and president we've ever seen. Uh, but yeah, I mean, I guess for any presidential candidate, that's what you want, even though he's the worst candidate and president we've ever seen. But yeah, I mean, the real difference here was Kamala Harris didn't hit Biden's number from 2020. And if she had, she would have won.

Speaker 3: 13:34

Somebody had pointed out that in three of the blue wall states that there were one hundred and twenty thousand votes, and this was them. Pointing out the the Jill Stein effect like herpes yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:49

You know what I'd rather call?

Speaker 3: 13:50

her a herpy than a cicada. She's a herpy, but that of the votes that she got, it was 120,000 and those 120,000 votes had Kamala gotten those votes and those and the three blue wall states, she would have Won the Electoral College vote and that is why I think in Michigan, in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1: 14:21

Yeah, I don't know if that is why Republicans don't I?

Speaker 3: 14:24

don't want to end the Electoral College and why Democrats want to one person one vote, because I would have liked to see Kamala campaigning in Mississippi, in Alabama, in places where Blacks have been disenfranchised and giving them some hope, but they had to focus on Pennsylvania, michigan. Wisconsin seven states yeah, seven states determining, you know the election.

Speaker 1: 14:55

And then it's like and, to be fair, this hurts places like California and Texas, where you know California is no other than Trump this is one time being a fucking moron. Uh, you know California is no other than Trump this is one time being a fucking moron. You know Republicans don't really heavily campaign in, and Texas Democrats have largely ceded that to Republicans because they want to focus on places like North Carolina and even Florida. It's just you know.

Speaker 3: 15:20

But, like I said, and somebody did do a good, he, he did a tick tock, I don't remember his name, but he said you know, we got to stop putting this money. We need to invest in, like I said, the Mississippis and the Louisianas and the Alabamas, who have a large black electorate and while on their local level their vote may not count because of the gerrymandering in the national election, that doesn't matter. But getting them energized and letting them know that you care about them, getting them out to vote, because those votes that they put out for her could have swung some of those states. It could have no states just by the sheer numbers of the melanin.

Speaker 1: 16:04

Mississippi theoretically could be a blue state if every black person voted and every black person voted and not every single white person in the state voted against black people. It would be a blue state. It would be bluer than Georgia.

Speaker 3: 16:19

Well, you're a little bit younger than me, d, but I remember when Davidke was running in louisiana and black folks came the fuck, I was like 90 percent turnout and I was still.

Speaker 1: 16:32

What was that like 90? No, I was.

Speaker 3: 16:35

That was the 80s, I think, 88 no, I know that I was old enough then and you know getting know, aware of politics and stuff, and I knew who David Duke was and I knew that he would not be good to have in a statewide office governor whatever. But I remember being so proud of the people of Louisiana for coming out and making their voices heard and it showed what could happen because he was thrashed 91.

Speaker 1: 17:10

Yeah, he got his ass kicked.

Speaker 3: 17:11

Yeah, and that was the year I what I graduated. The next year Did I graduate 91 or 92? It doesn't matter, stop giving away your age.

Speaker 1: 17:22

But look, speaking of horrific Republican candidates for office, or even Republican appointees, for that matter. Here's RFK Jr on. Well you'll see You'll see what the future of our Health and Human Services Department is like.

Speaker 5: 17:40

You cannot trust medical advice from medical professionals. You cannot trust medical advice from medical professionals. That doesn't mean that you don't have a great doctor that you should listen to, but you need to take control of your own health care.

Speaker 1: 17:53

Yeah, our future health and human services head saying don't trust the advice of medical professionals, we're all going to die.

Speaker 3: 18:00

What I don't understand is how does listening to your doctor not mean that you're not in control of your health care? Your doctor is giving you the information and then you make the decision Do I want to take chemotherapy, do I want to get a second opinion? Do I want it? So I have been all day, actually for months, I've been working mentally on this thing. You know I haven't really written in ages, but I'm always writing in my notes and I'm like I'm gonna, I'm you're gonna do this, ty. So I take notes. Lowest common denominator and that has been something that I have been talking about and I go, you know, they dumb things down to the. They bring it to the lowest common denominator where there's no nuance, there's no, and they try to box things into like and they use the buzzwords like oh, you need to be in control of your medical, those words that people yes, I need to be in control of my medical care yeah, what does that even really mean?

Speaker 3: 18:55

exactly, exactly. But that's and it's. It's so rampant among these fucking charlatans and svengales, and you know, with what they do with the semantics, and semantics plays into that as well.

Speaker 1: 19:09

Well, it works too, because, like not only are people in generally, generally speaking, uninformed and or stupid, and that's no offense to you know like I'm ignorant in a lot of areas myself, this also applies to me, depending on what it is that we're talking about. In a lot of areas myself, this also applies to me, depending on what it is that we're talking about.

Speaker 1: 19:31

But, generally speaking, the larger the crowd of people the dumber, the idea has to be for it to proliferate, and Republicans are taking advantage of that. And just by dumbing everything down to the most simplistic terms, to the point where it's nearly in unactionable. But people eat this stuff up again because you know, just that is the way the masses work, unfortunately. Herd psychology is a. It's a real thing. Uh, and again, look, lots of americans are unformed and or stupid. Again you can. So there was that study where people were polled on the policies that they support. It was like a blind poll where you didn't know the candidate but you saw the policies and peoplelled on the policies that they support. It was like a blind poll where you didn't know the candidate but you saw the policies and people voted on the policies. And then you line up the results with the actual candidates and people supported the policies opposite of the candidate they voted for. It was insane.

Speaker 3: 20:18

You know what I I was thinking about. It was like I don't know, maybe a year or two ago even I was like I was like I really want to do away with the whole registering a party, like I don't even think that's fucking necessary. Vote for the candidate, Vote for the who the fuck you want to? Because if you take the D and the R away and you just look at the candidate and candidates have to campaign on actual issues where they stand and I think it should be meant debates should be mandatory period.

Speaker 1: 20:49

Like I don't know, I don't think debates are always necessary, but I mean, I do agree in some ways. If, if party registration for the candidate wasn't a thing like if you didn't know what party the candidate was a part of, yeah, it would definitely force people to be more informed about their opinions, uh. But I mean, you need the parties for other purposes, fundraising for one well, I think for for um like for voters, yeah yeah, for candidates, for voters, why do?

Speaker 3: 21:16

you need to know what political affiliation I like. I don't really fucking matter, I mean that's, I don't think it does it, it's it.

Speaker 1: 21:25

It helps the parties reach out to potential voters and volunteers and whatnot, but it also reach out to voters, man but not. Well, yeah, but you understanding where you need to spend your money is is important for a campaign and I wish they resources, but it's also a double-edged sword right, because you can target the other party's voters and it just it does make things a bit more complicated, but it muddies the waters. It definitely does.

Speaker 3: 21:51

It just like. At this point, I think we really do need to be, you know, evaluate, because it gives. I feel like it puts a target on voters' backs when they do that. And now, like maybe before, but today, I think it's something to to revisit and to think about.

Speaker 1: 22:12

Right, well, we got, we got larger problems again. So our future attorney general of the United States has been nominated by Donald Trump, and no, it's not ideal, it's not ideal. States has been nominated by Donald Trump. No, it's not ideal, it's not ideal.

Speaker 6: 22:31

But here's Mike Lawler commenting on that individual and the likelihood of him being confirmed. I'm pretty sure. I called him a clown and a charlatan. You stand by that yeah. Separate news. One quick question Should a clown and a charlatan run the Justice Department Look, obviously the president has every right to nominate who he chooses.

Speaker 4: 22:48

There will be a confirmation process. We'll let that process play it out.

Speaker 1: 22:54

You see how that changed. He was like Matt Gaetz is a fucking charlatan. If you didn't know, matt Gaetz is the nominee for the attorney general. And then, when he was asked whether he would be confirmed well you know, donald Trump is right well, you know.

Speaker 3: 23:06

But you know John Cornyan. I have never known how to pronounce his name because the spelling fucks me up, I guess, I don't know he's got that extra N Cornyan and so I want to pronounce phonetically yeah, I just read it corny, because I, because like that ain't dust.

Speaker 1: 23:25

Are you off like it's like lasagna, where the ant is like the serving where I don't know, I know, but oh so matt gates has been nominated by trump to run in the department of justice. I mean, if you're aware of anything about matt gates, you know that's an absolute, utter disaster. After they spent after Republicans spent nearly a decade here talking about the weaponization of the Justice Department, they, you know, trump is nominating the most unqualified right-wing job possible for the job, which will no doubt Of weaponizing the Justice Department.

Speaker 1: 23:57

Yes, exactly, he'll do the very thing that they've been complaining about for years. That's the gag, that's the joke, right of course they did it so when, though, it was unfounded.

Speaker 3: 24:09

So when they do it, they're like well, now you're getting a taste of your own medicine, lids, tards, whatever. You know that. That was the whole game. Yeah, that was the entire game again and I'm gonna accuse them for four years of weaponizing the Justice Department. So when I was- that he's been under DOJ investigation for numerous things, including since the. Trump administration yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:52

Yeah, but for sexually trafficking an underage girl that's not ideal. Also, the drug fueled parties and the drug fueled sex parties, reminiscent of P Diddy, probably not the ideal candidate.

Speaker 1: 25:05

Congressional freak-offs and there was a bunch of infighting in the Republican Party between Matt Gaetz and other slightly less absurdly conservative members of Congress. That resulted in conservative members of Congress. That resulted in basically, you can call this retaliation from the right against Matt Gaetz, where they began ethics investigation into that behavior. The DOJ had him under investigation for and, well, that resulted in the conclusion of that investigation. But the House is now currently sitting on that ethics report, refusing to release it to the public, even though that was done before the election. They wouldn't do it then, and now that Trump has won the election, now it seems as though that they've decided to turn tail and not release that report because it would be extraordinarily damaging and Trump's already nominated this guy to the position. But here we have Speaker Mike Johnson commenting on his thoughts about that.

Speaker 1: 26:33

So, upon receiving the nomination for Trump via Twitter or whatever, true social, untrue social Matt Gaetz resigned from the House, and I guess that's giving Republicans some cover as to feel that they don't need to release that congressional ethics report. Feel that they don't need to release that congressional ethics report? Uh, but again, if they had, if they do so, it wouldn't be the first time that a member of congress has resigned before an ethics report comes out, so don't let them use that as a fucking excuse. They just don't want to embarrass trump and they don't want to seem as though they're enemies of the incoming trump administration. Because again um, you know we talk about this numerous times here the first thing hitler did when the nazis came to power is he cleared out the nazi party yeah, he went after his own people okay, maybe they need to look into some fucking history, because trump's well, I'm not gonna say his memory is like an elephant, but his vengeance is in that, his revenge.

Speaker 3: 27:21

And he's got a kill list, not literally, but figuratively, career-wise. On those I've got a disclaimer here.

Speaker 1: 27:30

But yeah, he's like. He's definitely an elephant in terms of remembering everyone who's wronged him yeah, even those kids in his ass right now.

Speaker 3: 27:37

He's, he's gonna, he's enjoying it because he likes having his ass kids. However, he has not forgiven you folks.

Speaker 1: 27:47

And I'm sure he's got a list of enemies inside the party and out that he's going to take his vengeance on. And I would suggest, if you're a Republican somehow listening to this podcast, if you have dirt on Donald Trump, you might want to release that now before he can take vengeance upon you. So, despite the fact that Matt Gaetz is a terrible potential nominee to run the Department of Justice and all these other insane people that Trump is bringing into his administration, you got to wonder what are the likelihood, what is the likelihood of success in getting these people confirmed? Well, mike Johnson has some thoughts on that as well.

Speaker 2: 28:25

What happened?

Speaker 5: 28:28

Listen, I believe in the principle of a new president being able to choose his team, and that used to not be a controversial notion. We're in a time of very divided government and a very partisan atmosphere in Washington. I wish it were not. I wish the Senate would simply do its job of advice and consent and allow the president to put the persons in his cabinet of his choosing. But if this thing bogs down, it would be a great detriment to the country, to the American people. Remember, they just delivered a mandate to the president, an overwhelming popular vote victory and, course, electoral college victory, and they have sent the message that America first, policies are, should be the rule of the day. So the persons that the president is choosing will help with that agenda. They will take their leadership in these agencies and they will reform them as the people expect and demand. So we'll evaluate all that at the appropriate time and we'll make the appropriate decision. There may be a function for that and we'll have to see how it plays out.

Speaker 3: 29:24

OK, there goes that mandate word again. Yeah, that seems to be the word du jour that they're all going to use, given the false impression that it was somehow an indictment on the Democrats that no one of the smallest popular vote margins in history, I think.

Speaker 1: 29:43

Except for Al Gore, yeah it was like one of the two, two smallest, but yeah, that function that Mike Johnson is talking about there that might be an opportunity to have Trump's cabinet nominees confirmed is called a recess appointment, and that is when Congress recesses for any amount of time, generally speaking in this, in this regard, a period longer than 10 days, trump can just have all of his nominees confirmed as acting heads of their individual departments for a period of two years or so, which means they would bypass the Senate confirmation process, hearings and all that Well that's the.

Speaker 3: 30:25

That's the curious part, because they have a pretty significant majority in the incoming new session. So why would you want to recess? You got your Senate. Unless you are concerned, then why do you not want to do background checks? So this little pomp and circumstance and fluff shit that they do. And I swear to god, mike johnson is so smug I I want to his face. Uh, I'm not gonna say violent things, but he, he has a very punchable face, I know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 31:04

But yeah, no, clearly there would be no need for recess appointments. Generally speaking, you would think if these nominees were worthy of doing the job and the fact that Republicans have, we'll have a four seat majority in the Senate and probably a five six seat majority in the House, although votes are still being counted at this point, so that might be up for grabs A few of those seats.

Speaker 3: 31:29

Yeah, derek Tran. Just he's up by like 36 votes or something like that over Michelle Steele and they're still counting, so I'm hopefully Even if you live in a blue state.

Speaker 1: 31:40

every vote matters. Just keep that in mind for your congressional representation. But yeah, you would think even with a, you know, a reasonable majority in both houses, they would be able to get these appointments confirmed of view that they don't have the votes in the Senate, which means that Trump is looking for any various ways that he could find to skirt the Constitution to get the worst people into his administration running it into the ground.

Speaker 1: 32:11

Of course they constantly play these games. It never stops, and again with just more Trump insanity. What you have coming for you in a second Trump administration, it's not ideal. But here's Ron Goldman on Trump's proposal of him serving for not just two terms but a third term.

Speaker 6: 32:36

Isn't that already clear? Don't we already know that? Like? Don't we already know that? Yes, it is very clear, which is why it should be very easy for every single Republican member of Congress to vote in favor of this resolution. But Donald Trump as you point out, chris has joked, quote unquote, about many different things, including, as I remember, in 2018, he joked about pardoning himself. Then that became completely normalized and everyone just expected him to pardon himself if he won. This time, the same thing has been happening. He has mentioned this over and over and over again for years now, and his jokes are not jokes. Nobody takes them as jokes. They are trial balloons. They are very intentionally designed to soften the response and then to normalize his unconstitutional and anti-democratic goals.

Speaker 1: 33:30

Yeah. So Trump has been floating the idea of running for a third term on the idea the premise that because he did not serve two consecutive terms and that the 22nd amendment, which states that no president should hold office for more than two terms, only counts for consecutive terms, Now again, obviously that's ridiculous and absurd on its face. But on the flip side of that we have a Supreme court. And look again, this is like you got to take a lot of things for granted here. The trouble, even be alive in four years like that. I wouldn't necessarily bet my money on that. But we do have a Supreme Court who is, at this point, largely or at least a majority of them serve as a rubber stamp for Trump and they can interpret the Constitution any way that they see fit and they do and they do.

Speaker 1: 34:19

And they have in a way that they could look at the 22nd Amendment and come to the conclusion that because it just says two terms, that it doesn't mean Trump served two terms and can no longer serve. They'll take his position or could take his position.

Speaker 3: 34:38

Two points. It's Dan Goldman, not Ron Goldman. Did I say Ron Goldman? I don't know why I said that dan goldman.

Speaker 1: 34:46

You know what I mean, bro, my bad dog, we he's still good he's not he. No, yes, ron goldman was the guy look man, I'm stuck in the 90s, I've been. I'm stuck in the 90s, all right, and number.

Speaker 3: 34:57

And number two, if they did rule that.

Speaker 1: 35:02

Oh yeah, obama, Trump in 2020.

Speaker 3: 35:04

Yeah, obama putting on that jersey, like LeBron in the mean. Yeah, he's like coming out of retirement yo.

Speaker 1: 35:11

And then you're doing all the ducks and yeah.

Speaker 3: 35:14

I mean he's always playing, you know. He seems like he wants to run against Obama anyway. So this I mean, just give the boy what he wants.

Speaker 1: 35:20

Yeah, let him do it.

Speaker 3: 35:21

Give him what he wants. Yeah, let him do it, give him what he wants.

Speaker 1: 35:23

But no. So look, it's absurd that we're even having this discussion like there are probably more important things going on in the world as we speak, but this just highlights one of the issues is it's just been a constant problem over the course of like a decade. Now. Trump says all this absurd shit under the guise of it being a joke, when actually he doesn't tell jokes, none of this is a joke.

Speaker 3: 35:49

He is planting seeds, just like he said every single election he's ever run in If I don't win, it's rigged. If I don't win. He plants seeds, then sees how things go, how they play out 2020, he got smashed, so then he was able to run with it Every other time. You know it ended up going his way and then the claims just disappeared.

Speaker 1: 36:14

Yeah, I mean, he claimed that the 2016 election was rigged before the votes were cast, but when he won and he was like well, actually, so what?

Speaker 3: 36:22

happened to all those rigged votes like?

Speaker 1: 36:28

well, he did say that on anything he did say that the 2020 election was rigged because if it hadn't been, he would have won the popular vote too you just like oh my god, this guy just disappeared and then nobody ever brings it up again.

Speaker 3: 36:45

No, like nobody ever challenges him or brings it up again. And I just I hate to break it to msnbc, cnn, all their journalists and anchors you're being pogromed anyway. So go balls to the fucking wall and do something, say something to save democracy, because you're getting no grace once he's sworn in.

Speaker 1: 37:07

No, they're not going to do that again and, unfortunately for them, they spent the past two years believing that if Trump happened to win the election in twenty two and four, that it would be a boon for their ratings. But, as they're finding out after the election, uh, viewership for both cnn and msnbc is in the dumpster, it is in the toilet.

Speaker 3: 37:30

It is, uh, you know, just record lows because they shit on their base of viewership and we tried to tell them come on cnn, what are you doing? Come on msnbc, what are you doing? Come them, come on CNN, what are you doing? Come on MSNBC, what are you doing? Come on yo, Come on yo, Come on yo. But they still wanted to play footsie with fascism, and now they laying off folks.

Speaker 1: 37:53

Yeah, I don't know whoever came over the term same washing, but it was an incredibly accurate depiction of what it is they do incredibly accurate depiction. Yeah, it is, they do. I've been calling it soft selling for for years now, not, not.

Speaker 3: 38:09

I mean sane washing is a thing.

Speaker 1: 38:10

It is appropriate, because we use whitewashing when it comes to history so sane washing in today's time is completely accurate, for sure, but what they've been doing is pitching trump and all of his absurdity, even though they cover it. They cover it as though it's like an, a reason, it's a reasonable alternative to what the other side of the aisle is offering, in an attempt to make it seem like, you know, reasonable. People have a choice between these two candidates. When the truth is reasonable, people only have one choice and anyone choosing the alternative and Trump is choosing utter insanity and it's coming back to haunt them at this point because people who typically Is this a comment about uncommitted Not only them, but you know, look, and I'm not saying that just because you watch the news, you're informed, and because you don't watch the news, you're not informed.

Speaker 1: 39:15

That's not what I'm saying. Set of critical thinking required to view that information and and know when they're being peddled some bullshit and exactly those networks have decided they're no longer going to continue to be peddled this bullshit.

Speaker 3: 39:30

Well, exactly we're that cognizant on the left to be like, no, you're not going to gaslight us over here, you're not going to do this shit. But fox viewers, oam viewers on the on of right wing media, they don't have that same ability because literally everything they say can be fact-checked, debunked. And me personally I would be offended like bitch. Did you really just play in my face like that? Because right here I'm like you know what I'm saying but. But I think also a lot that goes into that is they don't want to know.

Speaker 3: 40:09

Yeah that's I think a lot of it is and and you know it's willful, because they don't want to be taken out of their echo chamber because then they're going to have to reconcile some shit within themselves, their own intellect, intelligence, their own willing to buy into. So they put so much in.

Speaker 1: 40:30

At this point they're like yeah, people's identity on the right is probably committed to the things that they identify with on the right, and so any sources of outside information they would just refuse to accept, especially if it's coming from their white right wing.

Speaker 3: 40:48

I do that every time if it comes from their right wing outlets. Well, I mean, both terms are appropriate. No, that's probably why I do it Right wing.

Speaker 1: 40:58

No, yeah, they refuse to accept that information, but especially from their right wing outlets, because that is where they go to to have their identities confirmed. And that's why you saw that shift after the 2020 election, where a lot of Fox News viewers were moving to OAN and Newsmax. Fox News decided hey, you know, we made a mistake in trying to make some actual, accurate information in with the propaganda. And then they just they, they went full steam.

Speaker 3: 41:29

They just went all in. They're like fuck it Murdoch's rich, we got another billion, whatever?

Speaker 1: 41:35

Yeah, they didn't want to lose their viewers, so they doubled down. Now again, fox News lost three quarters of a billion dollars for lying about the outcome of the 2020 election. Uh, no one seems to ever bring that up. And again we covered those, um, some of the information in those depositions where fox knows that they're just outright lying to their viewers and they think they're fucking morons.

Speaker 3: 41:56

It's crazy and that and that and the the craziest part is that even that wasn't a wake up call. So when Fox was trying to like toe the line a little bit after making that, you know, getting rid of Tucker Carlson, whatever and after that settlement, their viewers were like what's that drake mean? No, I don't want to like, you know what I'm saying. Instead of going like you motherfuckers got my dad killed.

Speaker 1: 42:29

You got my uncle killed, like my wife is dead because of your lies and we believed you, etc yeah, interaction, where you know a lot of people they know or follow on social media ended up in prison because of it and people just it just erased the fact that Fox is propaganda from their minds and just continue to swallow it down because it reaffirms their, their already preconceived notions and long held beliefs. It's insane. We live in the most insane times. I mean, you know, I know me and you. There's nothing we can necessarily do about that. We can only talk to the people who are actually open to real, factual information or seemingly realistic opinions. We try and do our best to stay within the realm of reason over here. That's not a Fox News specialty, but we have a clip of Adam Schiff on Trump's comments about him being the enemy within and the possibility of using military action against Schiff and people like him in Congress.

Speaker 2: 43:32

And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen.

Speaker 4: 43:42

Do you think that he was talking about using the military against you and how concerned are you about retribution? Clearly that's what he was talking about. Would he go to that link with the military, essentially fulfill some kind of a unconstitutional order? I would hope the military would have more independence than that. Historically, the military has stood up to civilian authority where civilian authority has suggested, as in his first administration, unconstitutional acts. Look, I'm not going to be intimidated by anything he says, by anything he does. If I was, I wouldn't be on your show. I'm going to do my responsibility in the Senate. Californians are expecting me, first and foremost, to try to work and get things done.

Speaker 1: 44:27

work across the aisle where the president wants Now. So I know a lot of people are thinking hey, the military would never go along with some unconstitutional or illegal order from Trump. They would never engage in such behavior. And I've got bad news for you. It doesn't require the entirety of the military apparatus to do something like I don't know, arrest Adam Schiff or Democratic members of Congress.

Speaker 3: 44:54

It only takes I already know that the military is infiltrated. I mean there have been reports by the FBI with white supremacists, etc.

Speaker 1: 45:03

You know all that good stuff. Yeah, just you know, right wing magnet jobs. The military is filled with them. You don't need the entirety of the military apparatus to carry out some Trump's illegal orders. You only need, you know, a handful of officers and some willing grunts to do the job. And again, I'm sure the National Guard at this point is probably filled to the brim with right wing Trump supporters who would love to have themselves federalized in service of Trump to carry out some of his horrific plans and agenda in 2025. Some of his horrific plans and agenda in 2025. So you know anyone who's and I don't want to be like a Demi Downer, doomer, gloomer type dude, but like, just like you have to be prepared for the fact that Trump is going to order the people in his employ to do terrible things and that there are enough people out there willing to engage in those actions to engage in that and carry that shit out.

Speaker 3: 46:00

And, and you know, my concern is, you know, suicides are up, especially in the navy. So in the navy, cruel assaults are up in the military, and you know the radicalization. They're always playing fox, fox, fox, fox, fox. Only on the bases, which should have been stopped.

Speaker 1: 46:22

But that's the first thing Biden should have done when he got in the office is cut Fox News off of these government billings.

Speaker 3: 46:35

Persons of color in the military, women in the military they're going to be an incredible danger in a Trump presidency. They are going to be in incredible danger. Any LGBTQ person in the military and this whole thing there, when they go on about, oh, our woke military. It's demoralizing. No, what's demoralizing is when you can keep saying that our military is shit, our military is this, our military is that. You know, these are brothers and sisters in green, blue, white, the you know, in uniform, and there needs to be a trust and there needs to be and you need to. You've got a lot of people up for the military and that gives you the opportunity to make a living, take care of your family, come back, get money, go to college, buy a home, but you ain't never seen a black person, not on cops.

Speaker 3: 47:34

You know what I'm saying. When you get there and then you are surrounded by this diverse, but you need to learn that you can't just go around calling somebody boy that you can't go. You know because that, but that's how they grew up, that's all they've known. You know what I mean. So you have these. Diversity, equity, inclusion is like okay, we all need to rely on each other here, because we are all here. You need to. I need to know that you have my back. I need to know that you have my back. You need to know that I have your back. There needs to be a trust.

Speaker 1: 48:06

Well, the trust is about to go down buddy. Um, yeah, you know, one thing I really worry about, just given the state of affairs, when, so you know, our military is an all-volunteer force, we don't have conscripts, uh. So when you have a situation like this, where you've got an extraordinarily divisive figure that's about to become commander-in-chief, and racism running rampant, sexual assault, hate crimes, all of that stuff, you have the potential for a lot of minorities and people in the LGBT community, and women as well, who just quit the military.

Speaker 3: 48:42

Yeah, they just leave, they don't reenlist. Yeah, they leave the force and these are crucial people in so many areas of our forces and then their idea of like we're going to get out the woke. What they mean is like we're going to.

Speaker 1: 48:55

We're going to you know, women, black, brown people, every person of color and every female, every lgbtq person.

Speaker 3: 49:04

Yeah, because, like we can't hide, you know, if you're a white person, you don't talk about politics, nobody knows where you lean, but according to them, my skin color tells them. I'm woke, yeah, unless I'm just outwardly trumping. You know, know, tim Scott and Donald Byron, donaldson.

Speaker 1: 49:23

But I did see the like my my the first black person with the MAGA hat on in the wild the other day, so I was like, oh it's, it's tough out here, but no. So yeah, and Trump also has this, you know, plans to fire all of the generals who theoretically draft executive order.

Speaker 3: 49:38

fire all of the generals who theoretically draft executive order. I was reading about that.

Speaker 1: 49:45

So any generals out here who don't sign the loyalty oath to Trump specifically, I imagine they're gone, as well as anyone else that he perceives to be part of the quote, unquote, woke agenda. So if the leadership is gone, there would be a bulwark to anything illegal that Trump wants to use the military for, along with, you know, mass resignations or just people refusing to reenlist. You know, look, we'll have. We'll have ceded our military to the fascists and Trump will use them in whatever way he sees fit. And again with their plans for mass deportations at the beginning of 2025, just it spells disaster.

Speaker 3: 50:21

Just call it what it is mass incarcerations. They're going to Jaeger. That's it. It's not.

Speaker 1: 50:29

Okay, you're right, you know what? That's fair. We should just drop the term mass deportations, because those aren't a thing, largely because, again, to deport people there needs to be a destination available for them to be deported to, and you cannot force countries to take your deportees. It's just, that's not a thing. I mean, maybe there will be some countries willing to kind of butter up Trump by accepting that, but I'm assuming at this point it's not likely or even feasible. Then, even if you wanted to round up millions of people to send them somewhere, you have to round them up and put them somewhere first, because there's no